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Deception Island incident - worth mentioning in this article?

I was thinking of adding an "aftermath" or "subsequent incidents" section mentioning the Deception Island incident, as well as other small incidents, such as the one involving the Argentine transport ship "ARA Les Eclaireurs". I have been reading some Argentine sources, and they present these all these incidents as being closely related. I'm not sure if British sources do the same. I would like to build some consensus before proceeding. What do you think? Cheers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bob meade (talk • contribs) 21:37, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Bob meade I think it better to keep Deception Island as a separate article. I wouldn't put lots of small events together because the topic is wider than a collection of incidents. The Argentine sources might be of some use but I'd have to see them first before commenting. Generally, Argentine sources are of low quality IMO. Roger 8 Roger (talk) 13:02, 22 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your reply. I was thinking of using this paper - "The Antartic Problem and the Antartic Treaty: genesis of an inconclusive denouement" published by Dr Fontana from CONICET in the peer reviewed "Hemispheric and Polar Studies Journal" from Chile. It is available online, please take a look at it and tell me what you think. I don't think the author's nationality is a good reason to dismiss his work.

I'd also like to use "The arrival of Polar Forces: the permanent Installation of the Argentine Armed Forces in Antartica during the First Peronism 1946-1955" by the same author. Also available online.

I would also like to add a line to the article saying that the incidents stopped and things calmed down when Argentina's President Peron was overthrown. This is mentioned in the second paper. It's also mentioned in "Geopolitics in the Foreign Office: British Representations of Argentina 1945-1961" (already in the article) What do you think? Bob meade (talk) 14:24, 23 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have links to those articles? I couldn't find them. Roger 8 Roger (talk) 18:52, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes!

https://www.revistaestudioshemisfericosypolares.cl/ojs/index.php/rehp/article/view/192

https://www.undef.edu.ar/libros/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/8-1-4.pdf

The second one in particular has a lot of valuable information that is not currently present in the article: names of the Argentine ships present, officers involved, what weapons they had, their orders, even a quote from President Peron bragging about the incident. Lots of good information about the Deception Island incident and the Argentine response to it, too. Bob meade (talk) 11:33, 26 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks - in Spanish, that's why I couldn't find anything! Now I have to work out how to read it, the usual translation link won't translate it. It does look like a gold mine though. Roger 8 Roger (talk) 23:02, 26 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]