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A fact from Hong Kong National Front appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 11 June 2023 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Hong Kong police claimed to have safely blown up 1.5 kilograms (3.3 lb) of TATP on a factory rooftop, even though 280 grams (0.6 lbs) is enough to blow up an airplane?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2023/June. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Hong Kong National Front.

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Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by BorgQueen (talk) 00:56, 4 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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... that Hong Kong High Court Justice Andrew Chan compared the explosives case of Hong Kong National Front convenor Louis Lo to that of the infamous gangster Yip Kai-foon? Source: Ho, Kelly (26 April 2022). "Ex-member of Hong Kong independence group loses appeal bid against 12-year jail term over explosives". Hong Kong Free Press.
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- Comment: The hook may be too wordy. I would appreciate feedback and suggestions even if you do not necessarily support this nomination.

Created by Yue (talk). Self-nominated at 21:16, 9 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Hong Kong National Front; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

@Yue: Not reviewing, but noting that a hook simply formed around the astonishing fact that there's a HK-independence organization behind a bomb plot would do more nicely than the current hook proposal. Especially since I have no idea who Yip Kai-foon is. Dahn (talk) 10:23, 10 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Dahn: Thank you for the suggestion. You do not have to respond, but perhaps these may be better hooks? I am not quite sure what the rules are around how the Wikilinks are phrased though; does WP:EASTEREGG apply for DYK hooks? I have seen a few that would definitely violate that rule under normal circumstances.

ALT1: ... that Hong Kong police claimed to have safely blown up 1.5 kilograms of TATP on a factory rooftop, even though 280 grams is enough to blow up an airplane? Sources: Nip, Amy (15 October 2019). "Court told of 'weapon of mass destruction' discovery". The Standard.; Wong, Brian (9 April 2021). "Hong Kong protests: Former pro-independence group member pleads guilty to possessing 1kg of high explosives, faces 20 years' jail". South China Morning Post.
ALT2: ... that 1.5 kilograms of explosive TATP was found inside a factory unit belonging to a member of the Hong Kong National Front, the largest such discovery in the city since its 1997 handover to China? Sources: Chung, Kimmy (21 July 2019). "Trio arrested over biggest bomb plot includes independence group members". South China Morning Post.; Nip, Amy (15 October 2019). "Court told of 'weapon of mass destruction' discovery". The Standard.

I personally lean toward the former, and the two could be merged, but I think that would be quite a long DYK hook. Yue🌙 07:43, 11 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Yue: The ALTs are both excellent, actually. I personally like the former of two as well, especially since it does attribute a claim -- we cannot be entirely sure (to say the least) of how much is true of what PRC prosecutors say, and what PRC judges validate. Dahn (talk) 07:50, 11 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I amended my ALT1 by changing "factory unit" to "factory rooftop", as I realised the previous sources were using an outdated police report. Yue🌙 08:00, 11 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I like ALT1, it's a very hook-y hook. Not the most descriptive reason I've ever given, but it just reads very much like a hook. Both ALTs are very good though. -ASHEIOU (THEY/THEM • TALK) 01:27, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Review: I fixed all issues myslf. Done. Eurohunter (talk) 18:15, 23 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
A full review is required. BorgQueen (talk) 01:31, 31 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

New enough, long enough. ALT1 short enough and sourced (as is every paragraph). No neutrality problems found, no copyright problems found, no maintenance templates found. QPQ done. Good to go.--Laun chba ller 17:49, 1 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]