Talk:Home Assistant

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Created new article for Home Assistant

Created a new article for Home Assistant on Wikipedia just as a stub to get it started since the last one was deleted in 2019, see https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Home_Assistant

Gamester17 (talk) 08:32, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Help is wanted to improve this new article

Need help making the article read less like a list of features or a service brochure. So that it will not again fail https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(organizations_and_companies)#Products_and_services or https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Wikipedia:MILL

Gamester17 (talk) 08:32, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Differentiates itself from others in the industry

Firstly, Home Assistant differentiates itself from others in the industry by having a focus on local-control and privacy.

Secondly, Home Assistant is compatible with more third-party devices and services than any other home automation system, platform, or ecosystem. As of May 2020, over to 1600 plug-ins or add-ons with system integrations to different IoT devices and services are available as "integration components". Actions, such as switching ON/OFF lights, are triggered by automation, voice commands, mobile apps, or controls on the Home Assistant web-based frontend user-interface.

Gamester17 (talk) 08:32, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Notability

IMHO there is no question about notability today as Home Assistant is currently among the most popular open-source projects in the world! As proof to that, at the GitHub "State of the Octoverse" in 2019 it listed Home Assistant as the tenth biggest open source project on GitHub based on the number of active contributors that year (as the project had contributions from 63,000+ contributors during 2019).

Home Assistant is also a three-time award-winning project for the Thomas-Krenn-Award since it took 2nd-place in 2017, 2nd-place in 2018, and 1st-place in 2019. It has also been a nominee for a DINACon award in 2018.

Gamester17 (talk) 08:32, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Cleanup To-do

Per the most recent AfD, the article needs to be cleaned up to make it more encyclopedic. Looking at the current state, I don't think it's actually all that bad. Compared to some software Good Articles like PokerTracker, Dolphin (emulator, Mya (program), I think the overall shape of the article looks right and possibly most of the content is fine as well. The biggest stand-out problem is that some statements have a huge number of references of mixed reliability and it's not always clear what they are intended to support. I think the following things need to be done to clean it up:

• Take all statements supported by >3 sources and try to trim the sources down to the 3 most reliable and relevant sources.
• For statements supported *only* by self-published sources and WP:UGC, find clear WP:RSs or mark as "citation needed". For statements where no reliable sources are discussing it, consider removing the statements entirely.
• The current version of the "Reception" section is the biggest violation of WP:NPOV or WP:OR that I'm seeing. The second paragraph provides a criticism that is probably leveled somewhere in the 8 references, then synthesizes a response, referenced with 12 different sources that support it. I think we can cut the second paragraph entirely for now (and redistribute some of the more reliable sources to the "features" section"), but it would be useful to find well-sourced statements about the project's reception and use them to build out a "Reception" section.

For example, do not use 5 sources saying, "Home Assistant is great for x" to support the statement, "Home Assistant is generally regarded as great for x", instead look for a source that says something like, "Home Assistant consistently ranks among the best software for X" to support statements of how Home Assistant is received (note that the distinction here is that the aggregation of opinion happens in the source itself, not on Wikipedia).0x0077BE ^{(talk · contrib)} 18:41, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

I'd add to this list slightly.

• All unreliable sources should be removed, along with any assertions attributed to them that are not supported by reliable sources. We restrict ourselves to summarising reliable sources only, we don't fill in the gaps with blogs.
• Sentences like The company's funding is based solely on revenue from the subscription service to guarantee focus on its users' interests. are problematic. I don't have a problem with the first part, but 'to guarantee focus on its users' interests' is promo. Statements like this shouldn't be made in Wikipedia's voice - I guess it would be possible to phrase it so that the assertion of intention is attributed, but it would become awkward (something like 'The company's funding is based solely on revenue from its subscription service, which the company says allows of to focus on the interests of its users'), but even then this should be refenced to an independent source, not to something the company has said about itself. This is covered at WP:NIS; to be honest, I'd trim any content supported by material produced by Smart Home itself, except perhaps basic details like office holders, dates of releases, that sort of thing.

I'll have a quick run through now and see about removing some of the obviously junk sources, will try to find some more time in the next few days to do a bit more. GirthSummit _(blether) 13:24, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

Need to mention Mycroft

• In that section mentioning Voice Assistants, as well as maybe the "See Also" section
• I just want to double check on people's thoughts on this before i make then edit i guess!

Eric Lotze (talk) 20:39, 6 January 2022 (UTC)