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Protection

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This page is going to see a lot of vandalism because of Borat, so I think we should semi-protect it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sahmeditor (talkcontribs) 05:39, 21 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Article Name and Source Accuracy

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Hi, I have two issues with this article that I have flagged on the article page and the discussion page:

1. Like SpeechFreedom writes, I think that this article should be renamed either a History of Jews in Kazakhstan or Kazakhstani Jews. Kazakh Jews implies that this article is about specifically ethnic Kazakh people whose religion is Jewish, rather than an article about the History of the Jewish community located in the Republic of Kazakhstan. This actually applies to the whole article ("Kazakh Government" should be "Kazakhstani Government" or "Government of Kazakhstan". Using Kazakh to mean the whole country of Kazakhstan is sloppy and inaccurate shorthand.

2. The Leonard Solomin story. I am not sure how this is a major point in the history of Jews in Kazakhstan. It is sourced to the Jewish Virtual Library, part of the American-Israeli Cooperative Enterprise. I see no problem with this source per se, but I would point out that that particular article is just making the point that anti-semitism exists among some people in some form in Kazakhstan - as it does in every country I might add, including Israel. The relevance of this event should be explained a little further. I'm not sure that this union leader's arrest was even a specifically anti-semitic act, even if it triggered the resulting intolerant media coverage. I also question the Library's sources as they talk about the "Kazakh KGB", which does not exist. The Committee of National Safety (KNB) does exist, and has since 1992. It's not a major issue, but it's like a report talking about the "Russian KGB" post 1991 - it makes me question how well-researched the story's sources are. I'm looking for more and better sources for this episode. I should mention that a brief google search of this person's name doesn't turn up anything about Kazakhstan. Any thoughts? Konchevnik81 (talk) 04:22, 13 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I have one thought. "In 1997 the Kazakh KGB" is a joke. nevertheless, I have done a bit of research:
Google Search ([1]) gave the following excerpt from [2] "The Kazakh KGB was renamed the Committee of National Security in July. 1992 (Izvestiya, 14 July 1992, p. 1). 15. Sovetskaya Rossiya, 3 December 1991, p. 1. ..." The Committee of National Security appears to be the National Security Committee of the Republic of Kazakhstan, fonded, according to Wikipedia, the 13 July, 1992.--189.33.10.156 (talk) 23:23, 12 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with Kochevnik on the second point. Being Jewish and having lived most of my life in Almaty, I know that antisemitism is not at all widespread in Kazakhstan, and considering how short the article is at the moment, this information makes one think that it is. Most importantly, however, i think it is misleading to leave it in Wikipedia because Jewish Virtual Library does not cite (doesn't even name) the newspapers where antisemitic rhetoric appeared, nor any other sources, so there is no way to verify it or expand on the story, which means we do not have a proper source. As long as this is the case, the info should be deleted.--Eliokim (talk) 19:27, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Move to Jews in Kazakhstan

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As above, the article should be renamed to properly reflect that the subject matter is the whole Jewish community located in Kazakhstan, rather than ethnic Kazakhs who are Jewish. The renaming would be consistent with Jews in Ukraine not "Ukrainian Jews" or British Jews, not "English Jews".Konchevnik81 (talk) 13:33, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

borat

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should me be mentioned —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.246.66.76 (talk) 23:26, 14 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

10'000 jews

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I just did some basic maths and took out a zero -AnCeallach — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.97.254.150 (talk) 20:23, 31 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Move discussion in progress

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There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:History of the Jews in Abkhazia which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 05:08, 5 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]