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NPOV

This article is very pro-Israeli. It needs neutralisation.

An unsigned remark, proferring no evidence does not warrant a disputed tag.--Mrfixter 14:38, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Uses of the word "liberation" to describe Israeli military successes or calling tank commanders "brave" is not very NPOV. Also there is no citation on the remark that Egypt lied to Syria and Jordan during the Six-Day War. Also it claims the PLO was responsible for the 1972 Munich Massacre when in fact the responsibility was much more complex. And who thinks of the IAF as one of the most competent air forces in the world? I certainly do not after the operations in Lebanon. Obviously this articles was written by Israelis or someone with great interest in the Israeli military. Thereby the issue of NPOV has gone without notice. I'm putting a NPOV-dispute tag on the article and I hope we can neutralize it. /Dunord 20:03, 30 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Parhaps this article should be moved to "Military History of Israel" to conform with the other "military history of" articles? For example, the article http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Military_history_by_country could reasonably offer a link to this article, instead of having "Military History of Israel" in red type. Sammy1339, 1/30/06

Minor Logical Nitpick

I'm not 100% familiar with the particulars of the history of the Six Day War, but the 2nd and 3rd paragraphs of this subsection contain an apparent contradiction. The article describes a pre-emptive Israeli strike on the air forces of Egypt, Syria and Jordan, while it states in the next breath that Egypt lied in order to coax Syria and Jordan into the war. That doesn't quite make sense as stated. Also, lied is an awfully stong word in this case, fog of war being what it is and all. I just checked the main Six Day War article and it doesn't quite corroborate this account. (I'm deferring editing myself because of my lack of specific knowledge.) Duke Leto 06:19, 30 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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COs

What provision does the IDF make for conscientious objectors? Padres Hana (talk) 21:31, 2 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The invading Arab armies

"Following the declaration of independence in 1948, Arab armies invaded Israel. Egypt came from the south, Lebanon and Syria from the north, and Jordan from the east backed by Iraqi and Saudi troops." This statement seems to identify "Israel" as being the entire area of Mandate Palestine. True the international borders of the state of Israel have never been defined, but it seems a little inaccurate to describe the 'Arab armies' invading Israel when most of them entered areas only conquered by Israel in 1967. Padres Hana (talk) 21:47, 2 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright Violations

Most of the article is directly copied from a 2006 article in Haaretz: [1]. 173.61.148.217 (talk) 09:24, 11 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The leader of the IDF has called for a ground invasion of Gaza

It's a well referenced historical fact. Hcobb (talk) 10:50, 15 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

He most certainly has not. You're jumping to conclusions based on partial quotes, basically WP:OR. What he said, as your Defence Update reference makes quite clear, is "We are prepared just as we were to act should it become necessary. Besides, Wikipedia is not a news site and this article is about the history of the IDF, not about what Ganz has to say. Poliocretes (talk) 11:04, 15 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion relevant to this topic

It is proposed to rename Jewish insurgency in Palestine → Jewish insurgency in Mandatory Palestine.

Please discuss it on Jewish insurgency in Palestine talk page.GreyShark (dibra) 15:00, 25 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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