Talk:History of Hungarians in Vienna
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Requested move 5 June 2020
[edit]- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: moved (non-admin closure) Mdaniels5757 (talk) 01:35, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
History of the Hungarians in Vienna → History of Hungarians in Vienna – By WP:DEFINITE and WP:CONCISE, the use of "the" should be dropped from this title because it simply is not necessary to convey the topic of the article. Additionally, the use of the definite article in this case is clunky and should not be in use per WP:NATURALNESS. For now, we can disregard the "political correctness" argument that using the definite article to refer to ethnic groups in certain cases is "othering" and a social wrong. While I personally think this argument is compelling, the true test of whether referring to "Hungarians" with "the" is acceptable can simply be conducted by looking at the wider media: In 2019, news articles mentioning "the Hungarians" were a very small fraction (17.2%) of articles mentioning "Hungarians". By WP:COMMONNAME, the title of the article should be changed to reflect this usage by the media. Mysterymanblue (talk) 00:04, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
- Support 100% (and Support other similar moves) per WP:DEFINITE, WP:CONCISE, and especially WP:NATURALNESS and WP:CONSISTENT. You wouldn't say "I learned about the history of the Americans", you say "history of Americans" – and this isn't any different! (You're right, it sounds almost pejorative and othering with a "the".) Paintspot Infez (talk) 03:21, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
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