Talk:History of English land law

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Attribution for starting text

@Wikidea: As I was reading this very interesting article, I was struck by the archaic language in some places. Digging around I see that at some points in its history it has been marked as copied from the 1911 Encyclopedia Brittanica. That's fine; I just wanted to attribute content to the right sources. However, I searched the old Brittanica and couldn't find the source article, which the attribution template requires. For the first revision and large additions, do you remember where you got this content from? Is it in fact from the 1911 EB, or some other source, or is it all original? Thanks! -- Beland (talk) 16:09, 20 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Beland, basically if it's got footnotes, it was probably me writing - and where it doesn't it's probably cut and pasted from Britannica. I don't remember if I moved this from somewhere else, etc, but if you want to improve please feel free! Wik idea 16:17, 20 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The “Roman Law” section

Does this paragraph have any meaning? Well of course it does, but it needs someone who understands it to rewrite it so mere mortals have a chance…. 90.254.23.189 (talk) 22:35, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Survival of free tenures to modern times

The text states:

Free tenure was either military tenure, called also tenure in chivalry, or socage (including burgage and petit serjeanty), or frankalmoin, by which ecclesiastical corporations generally held their land. ... The free tenures all exist at the present day, though, as will appear later, the military tenures have shrunk into the unimportant and exceptional tenure of grand serjeanty.

The passage in bold seems extremely dubious. Frankalmoin was effectively abolished by Quia Emptores in 1290 due to its abuse for the purpose of tax avoidance. Frankalmoin tenures still existed but they gradually disappeared as they were alienated, replaced with socage, and the last ones were presumably confiscated by Henry VIII. "Tenure in chivalry" doesn't seem to be an actual legal term, but seems to refer to knight-service, which was abolished by the Tenures Abolition Act 1660 which also converted all such tenures to socage. Hairy Dude (talk) 13:22, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. Britannica uses the expression "tenure in chivalry" to refer 'principally' to grand sergeanty and knight-service. This entire article needs a thorough review! MichaelMaggs (talk) 14:41, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]