Talk:A History of Christianity

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Requested move 14 January 2018

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Moved Though not everybody agree, there's consensus for this move and it has been relisted(non-admin closure) –Ammarpad (talk) 22:41, 31 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

History of Christianity (disambiguation) → A History of Christianity

A History of Christianity → A History of Christianity (Johnson book)

There's no reason why the book by Paul Johnson would serve as a primary topic over that of Diarmaid MacCulloch, especially when the article about MacCulloch's most notable book receives nearly twice as many pageviews as Johnson's. With respect to the name of the disambiguation page, the indefinite article can be included as it is common amongst all the articles between which it needs to disambiguate. 142.161.81.20 (talk) 23:06, 14 January 2018 (UTC) --Relisting. ToThAc (talk) 18:41, 23 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose good faith nom. If I'm understanding this nom correctly, it wants to move "History of Christianity" to a book title? History of Christianity is the History of Christianity. Please correct me if I'm missing something, thanks. The Johnson book should have the suggested descriptor. Support per explanation (Jan. 28) Randy Kryn (talk) 14:04, 17 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Randy Kryn: A History of Christianity is currently about the Johnson book. The proposal is to move book to a disambiguated title and then to move the disambiguation page to the base name. The article about the book by MacCullochwould would remain unchanged under this proposal. older ≠ wiser 14:32, 17 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Randy Kryn: That is in no way true – of course I am not proposing that History of Christianity should be about a book. Is there something about the proposal that I can clarify for you? 142.161.81.20 (talk) 23:51, 28 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

~~Oppose~~ Partial support ~~the move as proposed~~. I agree that A History of Christianity should be moved to A History of Christianity (Johnson book). ~~However, rather than moving the disambiguation page, I suggest that A History of Christianity should instead redirect to History of Christianity (disambiguation).~~ older ≠ wiser 14:34, 17 January 2018 (UTC) -- Update: on second glance, all the entries on the disambiguation page (other than the primary topic) are variations on "A History of Christianity". As such, I think the disambiguation page should be moved to A History of Christianity (disambiguation) and that History of Christianity should be the primary topic for A History of Christianity. older ≠ wiser 14:38, 17 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Just to sum that up for folks following along at home, Bkonrad (AKA "older ≠ wiser"), if I understand correctly, is supporting the second proposed move and is suggesting, as an alternative to the first proposed move, that History of Christianity (disambiguation) be moved to A History of Christianity (disambiguation) rather than A History of Christianity.

Now, Bkonrad, how do you reconcile that position with the policy WP:SMALLDETAILS? For one thing, what reader would potentially include an indefinite article were they looking for the article about the history of the religion? Secondly, even were we to accept that the inclusion of the indefinite article is insufficient to distinguish the books and TV series from the article on the history of the religion, WP:SMALLDETAILS suggests that even the capitalization of the H in History would likely be sufficient to make the distinction even if there weren't an indefinite article. 142.161.81.20 (talk) 23:51, 28 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Support the older ≠ wiser proposal per WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT. CookieMonster755 ✉ 00:21, 20 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose all Per WP:SMALLDETAILS. A hatnote is all that is needed to distinguish History of Christianity from A History of Christianity._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 21:44, 25 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Zxcvbnm: Does WP:SMALLDETAILS not say the opposite of what you are saying? And perhaps you misunderstand – no one is suggesting that History of Christianity needs to be further distinguished from A History of Christianity. Please clarify. 142.161.81.20 (talk) 23:51, 28 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.