Talk:History of Brazil (1985–present)

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Very weak article. To example, the article writes:"To attack the soaring debt, Figueiredo's administration stressed exports — food, natural resources, automobiles, arms, clothing, shoes, even electricity — and expanded petroleum exploration by foreign companies. In foreign relations, the objective was to establish ties with any country that would contribute to Brazilian economic development. Washington was kept at a certain distance, and the North-South dialogue was emphasized.

In 1983, the economy floundered as GDP declined by 5.0%, the impact of which was accelerated by rising inflation and the failure of political leadership. Figueiredo's heart condition led to bypass surgery in the United States, removing him from control of the situation."

There wasn't no oil or natural gas exploration in Brazil, during military rule. The decline of GDP in 1983 was less than 2%, not 5%. Figueiredo never was agaisnt direct elections, but politicians such as José Sarney were. There wasn't no exportation of electricity by Brazil in any time under military rule. These so many other failures take this article as a weak article.Agre22 (talk) 01:28, 16 August 2009 (UTC)agre22[reply]

"the seventh term was started following Rousseff's 2014 reelection. Her second term was due to end in 2018, but in 2016, she was impeached based on accusations for violations of budgetary and fiscal responsibility laws, later proven to be false accusations." - What source is given to that? Dilma actually violated the LCP101¹ and even sended the PLN 362014 to "to change the Budgetary Directives Law in order to modify the rules of the primary superavit (surplus), and hence showing her knowledge of the fiscal pedaling by taking steps to normalize the accounts", as stated in page 45 of her Impeachment process. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.62.45.182 (talk) 03:07, 16 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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translation notes

Like most articles about Brazil, this one is written in a very vague bureaucratese. If anyone bilingual can help there are some actual translation mysteries here. But here are a few things to watch out for.

the word "mandate" is consistently used for "term of office". Perhaps this is a technical term but in North American English at least a "mandate" = powers given in order to do something. Most often used by politicians saying that they promised to do x if elected and since they were elected the people must want that change, or at least be prepared to accept it. Elinruby (talk) 22:55, 9 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
There are frequent instances of word order that differs a great deal from english (it was not until 1990 that x and such happened and so and so said it was a shining example of some concept which was sweeping the nation despite the approval of King Whoever, which led to repression and massacres, etc). Machine translation still doesn't always get these sentences right and it is important to check who is doing what to whom, because the first noun isn't necessarily the subject or the second one the object.
A lot of these articles have unexplained references because someone copied them from somewhere in sections, most likely the CIA Handbook or some other US government publication, which is a whole other problem.

- Normally I use journalistic style, ie spell out full name on first reference, with a wikilink, and last name in susequent references. In some cases I may skip this if the material is dense and just wikilink some acronym like the FBI or the PT...don't really think it's a good idea though, as I sometimes have trouble following when other people do that.Elinruby (talk) - It is also important to remember that Brazil's legal system isn't based on British common law. It is what is know as a civil legal system. It is loosely based on the Napoleonic code but it's been highly modified since then. But it has the an investigative judge like the juge d'instruction.Elinruby (talk) 00:07, 10 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Bolsonaro and Brumadinho

I hate Bolsonaro, but the sentence "On 25 January, at least 110 people died in the Brumadinho dam disaster in Minas Gerais" is totally irrelevant on this article. Bolsonaro didn't have any influence on that, and had been president for only 3 weeks. So, in my opinion, it should be removed. And he isn't the first president since 85 to say misogynistic things, so I don't know if that's a relevant information either. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lucafrehley (talk • contribs) 15:09, 23 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]