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Requested move 6 February 2016

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The result of the move request was: Moved per discussion below (non-admin closure) Tiggerjay (talk) 04:30, 14 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]


Historia (Pontifical Catholic University of Chile journal)Historia (Chilean journal) – The present title, "Historia (Pontifical Catholic University of Chile journal)", is overly long and contains more information than is actually needed to distinguish the journal from for example Historia (Antiquity journal). Nothing in WP:JWG#Title suggests "Historia (Pontifical Catholic University of Chile journal)" is a more appropriate title. This move is an actual revert to the previous name of the article before it was unilaterally moved (without discussion). Dentren | Talk 11:05, 6 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]


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Let me know if there's anything unclear or disputed in Wikipedia:WikiProject_Academic_Journals/Writing_guide#Title disambiguation, which codifies the common practice in WikiProject AJ. fgnievinski (talk) 13:36, 15 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I agree the original renaming, Historia (Pontifical Catholic University of Chile journal), was overly long, reason why it was renamed again, to Historia (PUC Chile journal). In any case, it follows WP:JWG#Title disambiguation, esp. the part about publisher name appearing in the title. fgnievinski (talk) 13:44, 15 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Not quite sure what's going on here, but it's a really silly dispute. Concerning our current disambiguation guidelines at WP:JWG, those were mostly written with journals of the same fields in mind, given that's usually where the conflicts arise [e.g Open Medicine (De Gruyter Open journal) vs Open Medicine (John Willinsky journal)]. I think at the moment, it would be premature to use the guideline as a blunt instrument to cover journals of different fields with the same name, simply because we never though of what to do in those cases. In cases like Historia vs Historia, we might be better off specifying the field rather than the publisher. We'd end up with something like Historia (Greco-Roman history journal) and Historia (Chilean history journal) (not Historia (Chilean journal)). Headbomb {talk / contribs / physics / books} 14:28, 16 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
They are clearly distinct fields. That's like saying Chemistry and Physics are the same fields ('science'). Headbomb {talk / contribs / physics / books} 15:11, 16 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
It's more like organic chemistry and inorganic chemistry. fgnievinski (talk) 20:48, 16 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I've proposed we update our guidelines here. Everyone's feedback is welcomed. Headbomb {talk / contribs / physics / books} 15:14, 16 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

American history journal then. Headbomb {talk / contribs / physics / books} 16:15, 16 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The article about American is a disambiguation page and, in fact, American history is a redirect to History of the United States. fgnievinski (talk) 20:48, 16 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
So how is it going to be? Historia (history of Chile and the Americas journal)? fgnievinski (talk) 00:23, 21 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Are we going to settle: Historia (Chilean and American history journal)? fgnievinski (talk) 20:25, 4 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
If the acronym PUC is bad, the article about Pontifical Catholic University of Chile indicates we can use just UC instead. fgnievinski (talk) 20:48, 16 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
A parenthesis with an acronym unknown to the normal user is not very informative. Dentren | Talk 20:59, 16 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]