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[edit]I am not sure if I posted the references correctly but here they are:
http://www.houstonculture.org/hispanic/memorial.html
http://www.valerosos.com/HispanicsMilitary.html
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Have you considered that most Tejanos in the CS army were drafted, and that many joined local militia so they wouldn't be sent far from home? Keep in mind Mexicans were most antislavery (Mexico banned slavery half a century before the US) and that Texas law barred contact between Mexicans and Blacks because the authorities feared slaves being aided in escape. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.62.89.102 (talk) 23:33, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
- Interesting observation, however the sources that you posted do not state that "most Tejanos in the CS army were drafted" nor that "the Mexicans (Mexican-Americans) who joined the CS were antislavery". Now, keep in mind that I do not doubt your observation and I tend to agree with you, but what we need are verifiable reliable sources that are specific on the issues in order to cite such statements. If you find them. I'll gladly make the additions to the article. Tony the Marine (talk) 02:06, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
It's a rather nonsensical fake according to which there were from 4,000 to 7,000 Carlist in the Confederate army, with Carlist units indeed under a certain general Echegaray. Behind the joke is David Odalric de Caixal, a young right-wing historian. Some people in Spain, and even in the USA, has believed this fake. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.8.98.118 (talk) 12:24, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, it is very interesting and what makes it even more so is the fact that "de Caixal" claims that all the records and documents that would have proofed that these Carlists particpated as Confederates in the American Civil War were destroyed. Yeah right! Tony the Marine (talk) 17:57, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
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It should say "Hispanics", not "Hispanics and Latinos"
[edit]The demonym Latino refers to people from Latin America, which includes Brazil. Hispanic, on the other hand, refers to people who are of Spanish origin or speak Spanish as a first language. Since there's no mention of Brazilians in the American Civil War and the "Latino" demonym in English wasn't used prior to the 20th Century, I don't see the need of saying "Hispanic and Latinos". I suggest changing it to simply "Hispanics in the American Civil War".--Raderich (talk) 10:17, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
- Actually I just saw that "Hispanics in the American Civil War" was the name of this article, and it was changed with no previous debate a year ago: https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=Hispanics_and_Latinos_in_the_American_Civil_War&type=revision&diff=1034300844&oldid=1001497543 I'm reverting this arbitrary change.--Raderich (talk) 10:20, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
David Farragut
[edit]Why he here? did he have Hispanic heritage I did not know of? 2600:1700:1F3:6090:F012:FCE6:26D6:67B1 (talk) 19:09, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
- His paternal family was Spanish, as is clearly said both here and in his biographic article. ...GELongstreet (talk) 20:03, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
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