Talk:Hermann Görtz

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First Burial Place

I have rephrased the reference to his first burial place from "in Dublin Cemetery" to "in a Dublin cemetery" because of lack of exactitude about the cemetery, of which there are many in the city. I would leave it to anyone who can provide proof to specify the cemetery's name.Cloptonson (talk) 22:08, 31 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The reference used says Deans Grange Cemetery, so I have changed the wording to reflect that. DuncanHill (talk) 22:12, 6 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Perverse navigation

In the article section, Plan Kathleen, Görtz is said to have parachuted into Ireland and then walked the following route:

Görtz parachuted into Ballivor, County Meath ... On landing ... walked to Dublin ... calling into a Garda barracks in County Wicklow, asking for directions to Dublin.

There is no citation to support this route description. The problem with this itinerary is that Ballivor is northwest of Dublin while Wicklow is south of it. Why would Görtz walk right past his destination as far as Wicklow and then seek directions to the place he passed (blindly?) along the way? The navigation, if true, is senseless. Alternatively, the article is wrong. O'Dea (talk) 21:59, 6 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The article is a bit confused. Poor Goertz was dropped 50 miles off target and was not aiming at first for Dublin, let alone Ballivor, but for Laragh Castle, Co. Wicklow, home of Mrs Iseult Stuart (Maud Gonne's daughter), whose husband Francis was a lecturer in Berlin at the time. So he walked there and stayed briefly till he was taken to Dublin by Jim O'Donovan. He was not wearing his Luftwaffe uniform, which he discarded for civilian clothes on landing. He later asked the IRA to go to Ballivor and find it for him, but they were unsuccessful. See Max Hastings, The Secret War: Spies, Codes and Guerrillas 1939-1945, William Collins, London, 2016, ISBN 978-0-00-750390-2, pp.333-4. Khamba Tendal (talk) 17:18, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]