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A fact from Herma Albertson Baggley appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 26 August 2021 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Herma Albertson Baggley (pictured) was the first woman to be on staff full-time as a naturalist with the United States National Park Service at Yellowstone National Park?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2021/August. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Herma Albertson Baggley.

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The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 07:06, 22 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Baggley circa 1931

... that Herma Albertson Baggley (pictured) was the first woman to be on staff as a naturalist with the United States National Park Service? Source: "When she joined the National Park Service (NPS) in the early 1930s, she was the first full-time female naturalist." (Treehugger)
- ALT1:... that Herma Albertson Baggley (pictured) co-wrote a guide to the Plants of Yellowstone National Park that has been in use for more than 80 years? Source: "Putting her botany knowledge to work, Baggley co-wrote a guide called "Plants of Yellowstone National Park." Though it was published in 1936, it was so comprehensive that it is still referenced today." (Treehugger)
- ALT2:... that Herma Albertson Baggley (pictured) was the first woman to be on staff full-time as a naturalist with the United States National Park Service? Source: "When she joined the National Park Service (NPS) in the early 1930s, she was the first full-time female naturalist." (Treehugger)
- ALT3:... that Herma Albertson Baggley (pictured) was the first woman to be on staff full-time as a naturalist with the United States National Park Service at Yellowstone National Park? Source: "When she joined the National Park Service (NPS) in the early 1930s, she was the first full-time female naturalist." (Treehugger)

Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Intentional balk
Comment: We could crop the picture if that would make it more legible for DYK (I left as is for now because it’s a historic photo that shows elements of her workplace, Yellowstone National Park.)

Moved to mainspace by Innisfree987 (talk). Self-nominated at 19:43, 14 August 2021 (UTC).[reply]

Long enough, new enough, neutral, QPQ done, no obvious copyright infringement (the section on "Legacy" should possibly be tweaked). The rubber boa snake should be made a redir to Rubber boa
what/where is "eWst Boulder"? Sounds like a strange name for a place? (Yes, I see it is in the source, but is that a typo?)
I think picture is fine, uncropped; as you say: it shows her work-place, Huldra (talk) 21:46, 14 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hook; my preferece would possibly be the first, but with the added specífication that she was the first full-time female; Huldra (talk) 21:53, 14 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Plants of Yellowstone National Park should not be red-linked twice, otherwise, this article is good to go, with ALT2, me thinks, Huldra (talk) 23:17, 14 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
"She was the first person to identify a rubber boa snake" ...should specify where she was the first to indentify them (rubber boas were first described in 1835), Huldra (talk) 23:20, 14 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks so much for these refinements Huldra. I have tweaked the legacy section to avoid WP:CLOP as best as possible while retaining the relevant details. Thank you for bringing up the “eWst Boulder” issue; looking into it, I feel certain it’s a typo for “West Boulder”, as in the West Boulder River, an area of Montana north of YNP. This seems especially confirmed by the fact that source is a Montana newspaper. I took the liberty of changing it despite the quote. I tried to track down the rubber boa question and while several sources mention it, none that I could locate gave more specifics, so I have removed it. While I was reading though, I found another ambiguity, as to whether she was the first NPS female naturalist anywhere, or specifically in Yellowstone. To be conservative, I have changed it in the entry to say Yellowstone and suggest we change the hook to reflect this. Meanwhile including full-time makes sense to me. Thanks again. Innisfree987 (talk) 00:52, 16 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks User:Innisfree987; now all that remains to do is to unlink the last Plants of Yellowstone National Park, and I then I think it will be good to go, Huldra (talk) 20:09, 16 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

with ALT3, Huldra (talk) 20:13, 16 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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