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Which leg amputated?

I know it says here and some other places that it was his right leg that was amputated from his World War I wound, but after having watched numerous of his films, it certainly appears to me that it was his left leg that was a prosthesis. If you pay attention to the way he walks he favors his right leg, not his left. More importantly, I just watched him in High Wall and at one point while seated, he taps his right foot on the floor and moves his right leg around a bit, while his left leg remains totally immobile. How could he have done that if his right leg (and, of course, foot) was amputated? Also, at one point in the movie, he bends down toward a safe and his easily and naturally bent right leg is clearly visible. You can't really see his left one at all.

I also just saw him in Make Way for a Lady. In that film, he bends his right knee normally to step up onto a train and then he grabs ahold of the railing and pulls his body up. His left leg remains straight as he lifts himself onto the train. Has anyone else noticed things like this in his films? Does anyone have additional more detailed or reliable information on his war injury than the one brief reference currently on this wiki page? Rmm413 (talk) 10:43, 17 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I've been watching many of his films and have wondered this myself. I know very little about amputations, but I have seen photographs of him sitting with his right leg over his left. Would it be normal to do that with a prosthesis? In one of them he rests his right ankle on his left knee. However in Four Frightened people when he's sitting down, he twice moves and kind of rotates his right leg. I've also just found a shot of his knee, though I can't be certain which it is, it seems to be the right one: http://i.imgur.com/YjruXeg.jpg (sorry it's not very clear, the print wasn't great). There's a scene in Breakfast For Two when you see him walking from the back and then from the front. Then at the end of the boxing scene (after the bit with the least discreet body double in cinema history - they didn't even try to get the double's hair right!) he spars with Stanwyck, and the right leg is definitely bending while the left is very straight. All in all it seems to me that he lost his left leg, not his right. But there is a biographer writing a new (and first?) biography of Marshall later this year, so he may solve the mystery for once and for all! Istara (talk) 15:45, 12 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Further to my above comment, I found the following information in a forum:

Private Herbert Brough Falcon Marshall. 14th Bn London regiment (London Scottish). Regimental number - 8246 / 514221 Shot in right knee 9 April 1917, Arras, leading to amputation of leg at the hip. Enlisted 2.6.1916. Discharged 17.5.18. para 392 XV1 KRs (wounds) age 27. Silver war badge number 393051. Istara (talk) 01:50, 1 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

How many children?

This article currently states that he had three children (with no citations for the claim). However, the sources I could find all said he had two daughters, Sarah and Anne. If nobody can come up with evidence for the claim that he had three children, I think the page needs to be changed to show that he had two daughters only. Rmm413 (talk) 15:26, 22 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Wounded in 1917 not 1915

As he didn't actually enlist until 2 June 1916 it is impossible for him to have been wounded by a sniper in 1915. A TNA blog gives the true dates based upon his attestation papers.

http://blog.nationalarchives.gov.uk/blog/tag/cinema/ 78.144.163.120 (talk) 18:52, 3 January 2015 (UTC)Robert Boon[reply]

Thank you for this information. I'm sorry I didn't see it earlier. The page has now been changed to reflect the proper date. It's just a good reminder that even if one has a source, it may not be accurate. Rmm413 (talk) 16:57, 7 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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