Talk:Henry Fairfield Osborn

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Book review(s)

For a synopsis and review of the first two books in the further reading section see http://www.jstor.org/pss/4524766. The review is quite useful for summarizing Osborn's legacy, I think. Tijfo098 (talk) 23:51, 26 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the recent additions of further reading books

I see that editors have been looking up other books that mention the life and career of Henry Fairfield Osborn since I added one book as a further reading reference to this article. (My occasion for adding the book reference to several articles was that it extensively mentioned the article topics, with good sourcing, and my occasion for adding the book today was that it was due today at one library. I'll receive another copy of the book, which is well worth reading, from another library on Monday.) It's good to see that a constructive response to one editor adding a reference to an article is that other editors begin adding references to the article. Finding references is good, and I look forward to looking up some of the other references and discussing with editors what the references say and how to improve the article text as further reading sources turn into footnote sources for articles. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk, how I edit) 23:52, 26 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Missing Quotation

The following statement "Biographer Ronald Rainger has described Osborn as "a first-rate science administrator and a third-rate scientist." links to Rainger's book, An Agenda for Antiquity, as a quote source. Although the sentiment is correct, I cannot find that as a quote in the book itself. Can someone else try to verify this statement and a source for the quote. 2001:8003:70D3:7A00:18A4:2F35:3FEC:E87A (talk) 10:52, 2 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You are right - it is not in Rainger. And when the quotation was first added to the article it was not ascribed to Rainger. The original citation was "Reviewer in The American Historical Review 108.2 (April 2003) of the critical modern assessment of Osborn's racialist science, Brian Regal, Henry Fairfield Osborn: Race and the Search for the Origins of Man (Burlington, Vt.: Ashgate) 2002. Osborn as an administrator is discussed by Ronald Rainger, An Agenda for Antiquity: Henry Fairfield Osborn and Vertebrate Paleontology at the American Museum of Natural History, 1890–1935 (1991)" It was changed on 9th February 2012 by an editor who is no longer active. I shall restore the original wording. Thank you for spotting and raising this. DuncanHill (talk) 11:27, 2 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I've now ascribed the quotation to Edward J. Larson and linked the actual review in which he said it. DuncanHill (talk) 11:48, 2 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Insufficient citation

"Osborn, who cofounded the American Eugenics Society in 1922," links to a Washington Post article from 2020 — in this case a tertiary source. Surely scholarly sources such as Regal or Rainger provide documented evidence of this fact? Terraplane34 (talk) 05:53, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Another odd citation

Twenty Years After is cited for Osborn's academic record, eugenic views, and the views of a large section of society. The book can be found here - and does not even mention Osborn. It is possible that a version with more bulletins may exist - the page numbering of the first bulletin (1-23) is separate from the main pagination, otherwise I can make no sense of the page number 72. All the best: Rich Farmbrough 17:30, 27 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]
The actual version referenced is probably this one. All the best: Rich Farmbrough 18:26, 27 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]