Talk:Henry Boyle, 1st Earl of Shannon

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Review: September 18, 2022. (Reviewed version).

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Reviewer: Mike Christie (talk · contribs) 15:38, 10 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'll review this. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 15:38, 10 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Images are appropriately tagged; sources are reliable. Earwig finds no issues. I don't have access to the sources so am assuming good faith instead of spotchecking.

"During this period, Boyle initiated renovation efforts at his estates at Castlemartyr, aiming to repair the damage caused by the war; these efforts targeted both his estate and the town of Castlemartyr itself". Does "renovation" apply to the town? That is, renovation and repair are not the same; I would have expected something like "During this period, Boyle begin renovation efforts at his estates at Castlemartyr and repair work in the town, aimed at the damage caused by the war".
- Rephrased to sound more like your suggestion; what do you think of it now?
"As noted by Eoin Magennis": can we say who Magennis is? "...the historian Eoin Magennis" or whatever is appropriate?
- Done
"because there was no serious threat of a money bill between 1733 and 1753": I think a reader unfamiliar with the topic needs to know why a money bill would have been troublesome.
- Added a note explaining why a money bill was controversial
'Boyle eventually rose to be "the most effective undertaker or Irish parliamentary manager before 1800."' Direct quotes need a citation no later than the end of the sentence; and I would attribute this inline to Magennis as it's an opinion.
- Done
"which as of 2006 resides in the Palace of Westminster collection": per this page it's still there; the page is dated 2021 so you could at least go up to 2021.
- Done

All minor issues. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 19:02, 10 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Dabberoni15, just checking you're planning to work on this? Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 10:32, 17 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oops, sorry, yes I am planning on working on this, just got sidetracked by life (happens to the best of us...). I'll address your points over the course of this day. Thanks in advance for not immediately failing this review just because I was a tad lazy :)Dabberoni15 (talk) 12:53, 17 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Mike Christie, I think I've addressed all your concerns. Please get back to me whenever possible. Dabberoni15 (talk) 01:05, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The changes look good, except that you can't use a 2006 source to cite the 2021 status of Slaughter's painting. The web page I linked above would work if you add that. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 04:54, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"You're all clear, Mike Christie. Now let's pass this thing and go home!" Dabberoni15 (talk) 15:45, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, looks good. Passing. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 16:04, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Death date

The article says the death date is 28 December 1764 and it credits volume 6 of the DNB as the reference for "On 27 December 1764, Boyle died of a sudden attack of gout in his stomach at Boyle's townhouse on Henrietta Street, Dublin at the age of 82". However, the DNB actually says "Boyle died in Dublin of gout in his head, on 27 Sept. 1764, in the 82nd year of his age" (see https://archive.org/details/dictionaryofnati0002geor/page/1018/mode/1up (the 1917 edition) or https://archive.org/details/DictionaryOfNationalBiographyVol6/page/n114/mode/1up (the actual vol. 6 referenced).

The (internal to Wikipedia) 28th/27th discrepancy is trivial, but why December when the source says September?

Not sure what the source meant by gout. Surely not inflammatory arthritis in a joint when it says either the stomach or head. TwoPairsOfBoots (talk) 04:23, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]