Talk:Hell Is Real derby

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On 23 November 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved from Hell Is Real derby to Hell is Real derby. The result of the discussion was moved.

Capitalization of "is"[edit]

I moved the page from "Hell Is Real Derby" to "Hell is Real Derby" as "is" is generally not capitalized when it is in the middle of a title. This is a non-controversial move, but I wanted to add an explanation. This is shown in a google search where just about every entry uses a small i in "is" (the only exception being this Wikipedia Page). Even FC Cincinnati itself uses the small i when talking about the game. [1] Frank Anchor^Talk 17:25, 20 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 23 November 2022[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. per consensus to Hell Is Real derby. (closed by non-admin page mover) echidnaLives - talk - edits 06:14, 16 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hell is Real Derby → Hell is Real derby – Articles throughout Wikipedia are stylized in a way where "derby" and "rivalry" are lowercase (i.e. Manchester derby, M69 derby, Cavalry FC–Forge FC rivalry. Changing the name to have "derby" lowercase would match that formatting. Rylesbourne (talk) 17:41, 23 November 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. BusterD (talk) 22:30, 30 November 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 05:18, 8 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page moves. Giant Snowman 20:19, 25 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - looks to be a proper name. Giant Snowman 20:23, 25 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment If this isn't a proper noun, shouldn't the title spelling be "Hell is real derby"? Rreagan007 (talk) 03:03, 1 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- I think the suggestion is that this is a derby named "Hell is Real" rather than a derby named "Hell is Real Derby", not that no part of it is a proper name. Also, this isn't a question of spelling – only a question of capitalization. Another possibility could be Ohio Derby (MLS) or Ohio derby (MLS) or Ohio Derby (soccer) or something of that sort – is this topic really more commonly called "Hell is Real" than "Ohio [D/d]erby"? —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 07:16, 1 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  - It is absolutely more commonly called Hell is Real, nobody calls it the Ohio Derby. I had to google that to even see if anything came up, and the YouTube link listed in the article is the only thing I could find. Everything else came up for a horse race. If anything, a more appropriate target would be something like Hell is Real (rivalry) or Hell is Real (soccer rivalry) than anything with Ohio Derby. Jay eyem (talk) 04:15, 2 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support, as sources seem to consistently cap "Hell is Real" but often lowercase derby. See news. Dicklyon (talk) 04:21, 1 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support but as "Hell Is Real" (WP does not lower-case verbs in proper names just because they are short). The event is more often simply called "Hell Is Real"; "derby" here is just one of several descriptive/disambiguating terms, like "rivalry", that may be tacked on, and not part of the proper name. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 07:20, 6 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Discussion has been relisted once more to determine whether the page should be moved at all, and if so, whether it should be moved to Hell is Real derby or to Hell Is Real derby. GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 05:18, 8 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support "Hell Is Real derby" per SMcCandlish. –IagoQnsi (talk) 05:36, 8 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support "Hell Is Real derby" per SMcCandlish~T P W 17:17, 9 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support "Hell is Real derby" per league and club consensus. The "is" is never capitalized in any official capacity, I think that overrules WP. Nobreadsticks (talk) 00:27, 11 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- @Nobreadsticks: We ignore official capitalization in many cases; see MOS:TM. The recent decision to change NCAA Division I Men's Basketball Tournament to NCAA Division I men's basketball tournament stands out as a particularly relevant example. –IagoQnsi (talk) 01:11, 11 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.