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The elusive secret mystique of Nazi mass murderers

”...nourish the "mysterious power" that the Gestapo elicits even to the present.” I’ve often wondered, until I found this Wikipedia page, what it is that nourishes the mysterious power that the Gestapo elicits, even to the present. 94.191.142.176 (talk) 22:38, 23 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The wording is too vague. 'Mystique' due to fascination with evil is probably what was meant. In 2021, there is no 'power' of the Gestapo.HammerFilmFan (talk) 21:05, 17 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Erroneous photo?

I am not entirely sure about this and will therefore not edit, but the photo identifying Muller visiting the war cemetery with Heydrich has a specific caption stating it is NOT him — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.125.0.177 (talk) 17:03, 13 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Historian with humble origins

Despite his humble origins as a police official, historian George C. Browder avows that Müller...

Browder could be a good historian even though he started out as a cop.2A02:AA1:1010:D0A9:F804:F564:554E:31AB (talk) 11:53, 31 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Minor ce, done. Kierzek (talk) 22:02, 1 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Rumour of his working as a KGB spy after the war

Spymaster, a book written by former CIA agent Tennent H. Bagley based on his interviews with the retired KGB Berlin rezident Sergey Kondrashev mentions the latter’s distaste at being asked to work with senior Nazis who were Soviet assets during the postwar period. Most of the references don’t mention names but identify places and branches of the RSHA. Bagley notes the Kondrashev was quite cagey about topics which might embarrass the security services of his country, but he does mention a former Gestapo officer who was very senior, who worked closely with Franz Huber and whom the allies believed to have died in Berlin in 1945.

This would seem to point to Muller, but it is a single source, and a lack of other likely candidates isn’t equivalent to an explicit identification. Also, it isn’t unknown for spies to be surprisingly credulous with regard to the conspiracies of their opposite numbers. Is this worth including with explicit caveats or is it too far in the direction of here-say and conjecture? 2.103.66.247 (talk) 09:32, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I think it should not go in, as it is tenuous and is not corroborated by other sources. Beyond My Ken (talk) 21:49, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

World war I service

Apparently entered the Fliegertruppe as a volunteer in June 1917 and received pilot's training at Augsburg, München and Neustadt. Qualified as a pilot in December 1917 and assigned to Flieger Abteilung 287 from April 1918 to January 1919. 2603:6010:bb00:288b:dce3:2cfa:e8aa:93f3