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Irony?

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"This motet rather ironically compares the Pope to a shepherd capable of soothing all of his flock and binding them together; Martin Luther was to commence the Protestant Reformation several years after its composition." Where is the irony here? Is it the text of the motet which is ironic, or the fact that Luther began the reformation shortly afterwards? Not very clear. Zeisseng (talk) 08:52, 4 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Composer project review

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A review of this article was request; I have placed my detailed review on the comments page. The article is clearly B class; it could benefit from a complete works list. Magic♪piano 14:14, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Assessment comment

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;Composers Project Assessment of Heinrich Isaac: 2009-06-22

This is an assessment of article Heinrich Isaac by a member of the Composers project, according to its assessment criteria. This review was done by Magicpiano.

If an article is well-cited, the reviewer is assuming that the article reflects reasonably current scholarship, and deficiencies in the historical record that are documented in a particular area will be appropriately scored. If insufficient inline citations are present, the reviewer will assume that deficiencies in that area may be cured, and that area may be scored down.

Adherence to overall Wikipedia standards (WP:MOS, WP:WIAGA, WP:WIAFA) are the reviewer's opinion, and are not a substitute for the Wikipedia's processes for awarding Good Article or Featured Article status.

Origins/family background/studies

Does the article reflect what is known about the composer's background and childhood? If s/he received musical training as a child, who from, is the experience and nature of the early teachers' influences described?

  • ok
Early career

Does the article indicate when s/he started composing, discuss early style, success/failure? Are other pedagogic and personal influences from this time on his/her music discussed?

  • ok
Mature career

Does the article discuss his/her adult life and composition history? Are other pedagogic and personal influences from this time on his/her music discussed?

  • ok
List(s) of works

Are lists of the composer's works in WP, linked from this article? If there are special catalogs (e.g. Köchel for Mozart, Hoboken for Haydn), are they used? If the composer has written more than 20-30 works, any exhaustive listing should be placed in a separate article.

  • none
Critical appreciation

Does the article discuss his/her style, reception by critics and the public (both during his/her life, and over time)?

  • ok
Illustrations and sound clips

Does the article contain images of its subject, birthplace, gravesite or other memorials, important residences, manuscript pages, museums, etc? Does it contain samples of the composer's work (as composer and/or performer, if appropriate)? (Note that since many 20th-century works are copyrighted, it may not be possible to acquire more than brief fair use samples of those works, but efforts should be made to do so.) If an article is of high enough quality, do its images and media comply with image use policy and non-free content policy? (Adherence to these is needed for Good Article or Featured Article consideration, and is apparently a common reason for nominations being quick-failed.)

  • ok
References, sources and bibliography

Does the article contain a suitable number of references? Does it contain sufficient inline citations? (For an article to pass Good Article nomination, every paragraph possibly excepting those in the lead, and every direct quotation, should have at least one footnote.) If appropriate, does it include Further Reading or Bibliography beyond the cited references?

  • Article is well-referenced and cited; would need more citation for GA/FA review.
Structure and compliance with WP:MOS

Does the article comply with Wikipedia style and layout guidelines, especially WP:MOS, WP:LEAD, WP:LAYOUT, and possibly WP:SIZE? (Article length is not generally significant, although Featured Articles Candidates may be questioned for excessive length.)

  • mostly good, only minor MoS and writing issues.
Things that may be necessary to pass a Good Article review
  • Article requires more inline citations (WP:CITE)
Summary
This is a pretty good B-class article. It would most clearly benefit from a works list (in the likely absence of portraiture, which would also help if available). Magic♪piano 14:12, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Last edited at 14:12, 22 June 2009 (UTC). Substituted at 17:33, 29 April 2016 (UTC)