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I have reintroduced the fact that her family suffered from gambling debts at the time of the king's suggestion and that she was persuaded by her family to give in to pay their debts. This is confirmed in the cited sources by Lindqvist; she is quoted herself about this. I hope it wont' be deleted again! --Aciram (talk) 17:20, 25 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
In my opinion, several references recently added, to show how Queen Ulrica Eleanor postured herself, need page numbers. There has been some discussion about this specific matter during the last few days on Swedish WP. Rather than adding the ref's here on English WP now immediately, why not wait till we can see those page numbers? In the meantime, one shouldn't have to read entire books to verify text items of that kind. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 19:21, 21 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
From the current discussion on Swedish wp, it is clarified, that the page numbers should indeed be added, as this would make the reference even more easier to verify, but also that it is allowed to add references without page numbers, and that those are not to be considered impossible to verify, or non-existent. They will be added eventually, which is allowed, as it is after all Wikipedia policy that Wikipedia is an in-going project, were the articles are being continuously developed without time limit. In short: a reference without a page number is still a verifiable reference and can therefore not be removed, and the page numbers will eventually be added to this article. --Aciram (talk) 14:51, 22 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Quote WP guideline (linked above here) "When citing lengthy sources, you should identify which part of a source is being cited." That actually means, for further work, that the page numbers should be in there from the start. I interpret your reply here as to mean that you will add them soon. Thank you! --SergeWoodzing (talk) 21:22, 22 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
