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A fact from Hebetica sylviae appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 19 December 2021 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Hebetica sylviae (pictured) was discovered after a two-year-old named Sylvie overwatered her backyard?

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The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 20:44, 14 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Hebetica sylviae on white mulberry

... that Hebetica sylviae (pictured) was discovered on accident and was then named after the discoverer's 2 year old daughter, who helped her discover it? Source: "She named the species Hebetica sylviae, after her daughter, Sylvie." in Murray State biology professor asks public to help map new insect species This Toddler Discovered a New Bug Species While Gardening with Her Mother at Yahoo! News
ALT1: that Hebetica sylviae (pictured) is named after a 2 year old? "She named the species Hebetica sylviae, after her daughter, Sylvie." in Murray State biology professor asks public to help map new insect species "In the case of Sylvie, a then-2-year-old, and her mom, Dr. Laura Sullivan-Beckers, a biology professor, when Sylvie over-watered their backyard flower bed, the pair discovered a new bug species." Katie Kindelan writing for ABC Action News

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Comment: Oh god theres a new UI for DYK nominations, just when I started getting used to this thing. Welp, heres to hoping this works. I'm a bit short on energy at the moment so if someone can come up with a bit more of a charming hook that would be well appreciated!

Moved to mainspace by QuantumRealm (talk) and Ornithoptera (talk). Nominated by Ornithoptera (talk) at 08:50, 6 December 2021 (UTC).[reply]

Comment very nice, and interesting. These facts aren't you everyday stuff.Leomk0403 (Don't shout here, Shout here!) 09:10, 6 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
ALT2: ~~... that Hebetica sylviae (pictured) was discovered by a two-year-old who overwatered her backyard, rescuing them from being wasp food?~~ Source: ^[1] ^[2] Leomk0403 (Don't shout here, Shout here!) 01:42, 8 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: If I'm being totally honest, I feel like highlighting that Sylvie is Sullivan-Beckers' own daughter would be important here, and its quite adorable honestly, she's not just "a kid", I was kind of worried that ALT0 implied I made Sylvie sound like she was "an accident" by saying that she discovered it on accident, and then her discovery was named after her implicitly, which could be me over-reacting, I just wanted a better way of phrasing it. Appreciate your effort and thank you! However an alternative quote would be great! The circumstances regarding the discovery are absolutely amazing. Ornithoptera (talk) 01:32, 9 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

ALT3: ... that Hebetica sylviae (pictured) was discovered after a two-year-old overwatered her backyard? Source: [1] I'm striking the latter part of ALT2 since I don't think it's appropriate to talk about "rescuing" something that was dead and buried. I'm also changing "discovered by" to "discovered after" since the two-year-old didn't understand the importance of what she was seeing -- her mother did. The rest of the hook is great, though, short and intriguing, so I'm preserving it and recreating it as ALT3 . Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 21:37, 11 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: ~~There may be an error in the template regarding a link to a completed QPQ. For now, I have to assume that one has not yet been done. Please link to a completed DYK review and let me know.~~ All three hooks are sourced but my preference is for ALT3. Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 21:37, 11 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No error, Mary Mark Ockerbloom. Click the QPQ link and you'll find a completed review of (in my opinion) one of the greatest DYK hooks of all time. Since the QPQ was the only holdup, I'll take the liberty of adding a tick. {

ezlev (user/tlk/ctrbs) 05:11, 12 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, I get it now! I've updated the review template. Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 16:42, 12 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment to @Ezlev and Mary Mark Ockerbloom: does this ALT3a work?
  - ALT3a: ... that Hebetica sylviae (pictured) was discovered after a two-year-old named Sylvie overwatered her backyard?
- Adds more interest for the people who put it together at minimal cost to punchiness... I'll promote it if y'all are both on board. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/she) 07:21, 14 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  - Fine by me, leek! ezlev (user/tlk/ctrbs) 15:40, 14 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
A very nice modification, I also approve ALT3a. Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 19:11, 14 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

ALT3a to T:DYK/P6

References

[1] ttps://abcactionnews.com/news/local-news/water-cooler/mom-and-daughter-discover-new-bug-species-when-daughter-over-waters-flower-garden

[2] ttps://yahoo.com/lifestyle/kentucky-toddler-discovered-species-184049934.html

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