Talk:Heart of the Sunrise

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Hidden track

Having just finished listening to my vinyl copy of Fragile, I hear no hidden track as a reprise of We Have Heaven at the end. This puzzles me; was it only included on the CD remaster? 114.76.85.77 (talk) 10:08, 9 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No, it was on the original LP for many years and many pressings (but not, I seem to recall, the cassette version). What happens is that about 20 seconds after the (abrupt) end of HotS, you suddenly hear a door open and "We Have Heaven" picks up right where it left off when the door slammed, then slowly fades after about a minute. Daniel Case (talk) 02:14, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Influences

Has anyone ever written about the apparent influences on the music (Stravinsky, I've always thought, in the intro) and lyrics (the whole "lost in the city" aspect sounds like Anderson had Charles Baudelaire on the brain)? Daniel Case (talk) 02:15, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've read people associating it with Stravinsky's Firebird, and the band were aware of him and his legendary ballet scores of course - the use of Firebird Suite as a long-running opener at live concerts, and (less obviously) Jon Anderson intoning the opening phrase of The Rite of Spring when introducing Rick Wakeman's solo spot on Yessongs, are testimonies to this. I would personally suggest Anton Bruckner too - his way of mixing long, open ballad-like stretches and sudden breakouts heavy with brass, timpani and percussion.

There are few real precursors to it within rock music; in its early-seventies context it's a very bold piece in many ways (and brilliantly executed). The sharp alternating of different sections with very brief lead-ins/lead-outs or none at all, the mix of granite hard riffing (the opening few bars and its repeats), ballad and chamber improvisation, all in a 'banded' structure. The way the lyrics seem to speak of love both between humans and between man and deity (the religious overtones are very evident as the song progresses). The liner notes to the Rhino reissue suggest William Blake as an influence on the lyrics and the entire album, which sounds very likely, but Baudelaire could also be part of the background. 83.254.154.164 (talk) 04:20, 23 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]