Talk:Headline
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unfortunate juxtapositions
[edit]Newspapermen have a word for occasions when two adjacent headlines make funny or disturbing combinations. The most famous one I know about was in the Philadelphia Inquirer when Flier goalie Pelle Lindbergh died. A story about the team's morale was next to a story about Lindbergh's family releasing his organs for transplant. The headlines read" Lindbergh Family Approves Organ Donations"/"Team Takes Heart" (or something equally macabre). If somebody can remember this word, I think it worthy of mention. 165.91.64.250 (talk) 08:23, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
Famous headlines
[edit]Need newspaper name and dates for these. Cburnett 22:27, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
An expanded list with its own page would be nice too.
One of the most famous headlines, the New York Times' MEN WALK ON MOON used a very big font, I've heard the biggest they ever used. But I haven't found a reliable source for this.CharlesHBennett (talk) 18:42, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
Most common headlines
[edit]Anyone know of a source to find the most common headlines? Someone must have done an analysis, I know I've heard of most common words in headlines being studied, but I can't find a source. --Keflavich 17:06, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
Headlice?
[edit]"Headlice is text at the top of a newspaper article...". Someone is surely kidding? 98.245.12.131 (talk) 04:26, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
Subheading
[edit]"Subheading" redirects to this article ("Headline"), but there doesn't seem to be anything on that sort of heading or subheading in this article. Is Wikipedia really lacking an article on non-headline headings? —Pengo 21:59, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
- And there's no information here about the possible little headline above the headline. I don't know the English name for it, but in Italian it's obviously occhiello. Additionally to that it probably should be added to this article, I'd like to know the name in any case, as the Wikidata item d:Q3880666 just got the English label "half title", but article half title does not mention this meaning (instead, it's a dedicated page where only the title is printed, which is what the tiny section Libri in the Italian article is about. So it's the same word in Italian, but is it in English, too? --YMS (talk) 09:33, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
- It's called a kicker in some places. BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 18:26, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
Common formats
[edit]How are heading/subheading pairs commonly written, as in references? ᛭ LokiClock (talk) 16:09, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
Bridgehead?
[edit]Should something about bridgeheads be added here? [1]
BridgeHead -- A free-floating heading
Some documents, usually legacy documents, use headings that are not tied to the normal sectional hieararchy. These headings may be represented in DocBook with the BridgeHead element.
BridgeHeads may also be useful in fiction or journalistic works that don't have a nested hierarchy.
Processing expectations: A BridgeHead is formatted as a block, using the same display properties as the section heading which it masquerades as. The RenderAs attribute controls which heading it mimics.
Propaganda
[edit]I think this entire section should be removed for the following reasons.
- No citations,
- Unrelated specifically to headlines,
- "Original research" as a way to do media criticism on an encyclopedia.
Does anyone object?
Largerespectfullad (talk) 18:54, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
- I have no objection. The use of headlines within propaganda is a legitimate topic somewhere, but not necessarily here, and not like that. - DavidWBrooks (talk) 19:43, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
Heading
[edit]User:Hildeoc says "heading" is a synonym but I say that's wrong - this article is about newspaper headlines not titles of other types of articles, and the uses of "heading" that Hildeoc points to refer to book chapters and the like, different from newspaper articles. Forty years in the U.S. newspaper business makes me confident of this terminology.
However it is possible that this is a cultural difference; perhaps in Britain or other English-speaking countries "heading" is a newspaper usage. Anybody else care to chime in? - DavidWBrooks (talk) 00:50, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
1. Criteria? 2. Headline writer as a job description?
[edit]1. CRITERIA.
- I don't really see where the actual criteria are mentioned in this article.
- Is accuracy the main criteria? Succinctness? Attention-grabbing? Salaciousness? Truthfulness?
- I imagine the publications would use different criteria depending on their audience niche - like The Enquirer vs The New York Times, having different objectives.
- Is there a sliding scale of criteria, for example accuracy over attention-grabbing over succinctness?
- How is it decided if punctuation is added to a headline, like an exclamation mark, a question mark, or a full-stop period?
- Are puns or double entendre considered desirable or unwelcome?
- Is foul language always excluded?
- Alliteration seems to be used a lot. Is that a goal where possible?
- What criteria is used to determine a headline's point size and darkness and the placement on the page?
- Are headlines ever written to take into account who might see the paper, like children? Would that mean that headline on the front page are more "family friendly" than headlines inside the paper?
- In short, what is accepted criteria? Is there an Association of Headline Writers with published standards?
2. HEADLINE WRITER AS A JOB DESCRIPTION.
- As I understand it, a headline writer is a separate person from the journalist or the editor.
- Is it a whole job unto itself, requiring a lot of reading?
- Who does the headline writer report to - the editor?
- Does the journalist ever have input into what a headline will be or are they "too close" to the story?
- Does the headline writer also have other responsibilities?
Thank you for your time. I am curious to know more about this. Wordreader (talk) 05:18, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
- In print publications, headlines are traditionally written by editors - often by editors whose main or only job involves laying out the paper, choosing photos, writing captions and headlines, etc. In smaller publications, they may be written by editors who also manage reporters and edit copy, or even by reporters themsel;ves. Job distinctions are blurry in digital media where headlines may be written by the reporter, or by others. The rest of your questions seem outside the scope of this article and delve into the workings of journalism. Check [[2]] is you want to learn more. - DavidWBrooks (talk) 15:32, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you for the information. I appreciate your time. Thank you, Wordreader (talk) 19:55, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
Another famous headline.
[edit]Wasn't there a famous headline from World War II that read something like: "Sights Sub, Sinks Same"? Thank you, Wordreader (talk) 05:25, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
- Not a headline - a message from a Navy ship: sighted sub, sank same. - DavidWBrooks (talk) 12:03, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you for the correction. I appreciate the trouble you took. Yours, Wordreader (talk) 19:56, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
Students participate in important election
[edit]Students participate in important election 2607:FEA8:7ADD:C300:592E:1DC5:9480:F36C (talk) 23:36, 8 March 2023 (UTC)