Talk:Haydn Quartets (Mozart)

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Einstein Quote

"According to Alfred Einstein, Mozart "completely found himself... music made of music."[13]"

I think this sentence should be deleted. It suddenly appears without context. Anyone object?

catisonh 23:24, 16 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sure. Removed. It looked like just a "gush" statement (which was at least cited from a critical source). We'll keep it to quotes that are more specific about what is great about these works.

Done

Discography

I dunno. Many quartets have recorded these. I don't know how productive it would be to list them all. If you must, though, here is a link to most of them that are currently in print: [1] Each of the six quartets has been 37 and 60 available. DavidRF (talk) 05:21, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It's not at all productive to list them all.

But it would be nice to pick out the ones which are the most historically interesting, such as: the very first group to record all six, the very first to record all six digitally, the very first group to use the Bärenreiter edition, etc. Jindřichův Smith (talk) 00:28, 25 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"After hearing them all"

There's absolutely no proof that Haydn in 1785 heard all all six quartets performed at Mozart's apartment.--2A02:8388:8180:B000:8101:A183:30EF:888 (talk) 15:57, 15 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Joseph Haydn, the creator of the modern string quartet?

Someone had added the following (which I deleted): "Joseph Haydn, "who is considered the creator of the modern string quartet. Haydn had recently completed his influential Opus 33 set of quartets in 1781, the year that Mozart arrived in Vienna."

There is a dissertation on how Franz Xaver Richter (an acquaintance of Mozart) is the inventor of the modern string quartet. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/296864720_Did_Franz_Xaver_Richter_invent_the_string_quartet_Reflections_on_the_300th_birthday_of_the_composer_including_a_theory_about_Boccherini And whatabout the contrapuntal and motivically-driven string quartets of Franz Ignaz Beecke's (the C major) and Michael Haydn's (MH 299, MH 316, MH 319), written between 1780 and 1782? Singling out Joseph Haydn as the inventor just cause he was the dedicatee of the Mozart six quartets doesn't seem fair. More importantly (unlike Michael Haydn's quintets, for example), there's not a single mention of Joseph Haydn's Op.33, or any of his quartets for that matter in Mozart's own letters. Wikiwickedness (talk) 08:24, 23 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Always glad to read Wikiwickedness's interesting, erudite, and often iconoclastic views on things. Good to know, for example, that there are those who challenge Haydn's status as the "father of the string quartet". Those challenges notwithstanding, Haydn is still almost universally recognized as the creator of the modern string quartet. So I think it has to remain. Ravpapa (talk) 07:06, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]