Talk:Hatt-i humayun/GA2

GA Review

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Reviewer: MathewTownsend (talk · contribs) 19:32, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

• Hi, I'll review this article. First I'll make a few copy edits if you don't mind (you are free to revert any changes I make.) MathewTownsend (talk) 19:32, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

begin comments

• "Sultan" - this shouldn't be capitalized unless you're referring to a specific sultan, such as Sultan Mehmed II. Same goes for "grand vizier" also, per MOS:Titles of people.

Agree, corrected. --İnfoCan (talk) 22:06, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

• where are the "Ottoman archives"?

In Istanbul. Inserted in text. --İnfoCan (talk) 22:06, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

• shouldn't the quotes in the captions have source citations?

There is a source citation at the end of each long sentences with multiple quotes. Have I missed any? --İnfoCan (talk) 22:06, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, I meant in the captions, as all direct quotes are to have a citation immediately following. (This is part of the Good article criteria.)

Done. --İnfoCan (talk) 14:41, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

Also, I'm not sure how this applies to this article: MOS:Foreign-language quotations (not specified in the GA criteria - so you can disregard if you want).

Both the originals and a translations are provided, I prefer to keep them as they are. --İnfoCan (talk) 15:02, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

• "For example, after the successful defense of Mosul against the forces of Nadir Shah, in 1743, the sultan sent a hatt-ı hümayun to the governor Haj Husayn Pasha" - could the name of the sultan that sent this be inserted here?

Done. --İnfoCan (talk) 14:41, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

• To give a "broad" context to the article unfamiliar with Ottoman history, it would be good to give some context and links. e.g. most people, like me, don't know what Tanzimat refers to without clicking the link. You could add some brief context if it's on topic.

I added a comment to the Introduction that the Tanzimat was a reform aimed at modernizing the Ottoman empire. Anything more would be beyond the scope of this article. --İnfoCan (talk) 14:59, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

• very good. I really like the article. One holdup: there is still a caption quotation without a citation immediately following: "My Vizier. Today where do you intend to go? How is my girl, the piece of my life? Make me happy with news of the health of your holy disposition. My body is in good health, thank be God. Those of my imperial family are in good health as well. Let me know when you know." Can this be fixed? MathewTownsend (talk) 15:14, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

The citation was there but misplaced. I placed it in the right place. --İnfoCan (talk) 17:33, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

GA review-see WP:WIAGA for criteria (and here for what they are not)

1. Is it reasonably well written?

   a. prose: clear and concise, respects copyright laws, correct spelling and grammar:

   b. complies with MoS for lead, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation:

2. Is it factually accurate and verifiable?

   a. provides references to all sources in the section(s) dedicated to footnotes/citations according to the guide to layout:

   b. provides in-line citations from reliable sources where necessary: (direct quotations, statistics, ... )

   *just that one quote mentioned above

   c. no original research:

3. Is it broad in its coverage?

   a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic:

   b. it remains focused and does not go into unnecessary detail (see summary style):

4. Does it follow the neutral point of view policy.

   fair representation without bias:

5. Is it stable?

   no edit wars, etc:

6. Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?

   a. images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:

   b. images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:

7. Overall:

   Pass or Fail:

   Pass!

• Congratulations! Very interesting article - write more! MathewTownsend (talk) 17:40, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks very much for your careful reading and improvements. --İnfoCan (talk) 17:47, 29 August 2012 (UTC)