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Parents?

Is it too much to list all the parents of the three band members, including full names and occupations? It seems like overkill when most of them are just ordinary people with ordinary jobs and don't have any direct involvement with the band. Opinions please!

DivingSpicy (talk) 08:59, 14 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

DivingSpicy, I added them since they were heavily reported on by major Icelandic outlets, given the connection between a politically active band and the Icelandic government. It gives a brief overview over who the people in the band are, since neither band member is notable enough for their own article. Furthermore, it establishes that Klemens and Matthías are cousins. Feel free to make amendments, but I think keeping the general content is reasonable. Lordtobi (✉) 09:39, 14 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

DivingSpicy, I have expanded the Members section to include subsections for the individual members, this way the partents sentences are split up nicely and don't feel to cluttered. Please let me know what you think. Lordtobi (✉) 16:24, 7 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

"Dissolve the band"

Since the band is has obviously not broken up, wouldn't it be important to point out that it was likely a false claim or something along the lines of it? --Sjevtic (talk) 14:30, 26 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sjevtic, as far as I can see, we cannot tell whether they actually broke up and later (for Söngvakeppnin) got back together, or just announced that they had broken up and in reality stayed together. The best we can do is, like we currently due, begin sentence following the dissolution explanation with "However", indicating a contradiction. I specificially chose the source associated with that sentence because it includes something among the lines of "apparently they changed their mind". Per WP:V, if there is any reliable, secondary source that talks splecifically about how this dissolution went about and can explain what actually hapennened, we can include that in the article, of course. Regards. Lordtobi (✉) 15:20, 26 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sjevtic, I have since found a source that outlines that the band did not dissolve, because it performed in the Netherlands shortly following the date they were supposed to have dissolved. The information has been included in the History section. Please let me know what you think. Lordtobi (✉) 16:25, 7 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Svikamylla also announced a full-length record (by which I suppose they mean album) by Hatari later this year. I think it was on the Reddit Q&A. So they are definitely not breaking up. Sjevtic (talk) 20:41, 7 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sjevtic, I think the context of the dissolution was only within the end of 2018, and they really did not dissolve. Given their newfound international popularity they probably also won't dissolve anytime soon. Could you give me a link to the Q&A? Lordtobi (✉) 20:43, 7 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Here's the Q&A thread, and here's that particular answer. --S. Jevtić (talk) 20:54, 7 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for this, though I don't think it will be usable in the article since it is on Reddit. Lordtobi (✉) 21:37, 7 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know, it's confirmed to be the official Svikamylla account, and the thread is locked so nobody can edit it anymore. Isn't that credible enough? --S. Jevtić (talk) 16:24, 9 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Klefi / Samed

The song was filmed by Yousef Hammad, who happens to have instagram'ed himself at the time being at Nabi Musa. That's Area C. -- 131.188.6.22 (talk) 17:52, 1 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Band Member Ages

Until now the ages of Matthías and Klemens were estimated based on an article in the Guardian. However we know that Klemens had lied about his age in an interview and this articles seems to have picked up that lie. So Klemens's age is inaccurate. There is also no age estimate for Einar, which seems inconsistent. I removed the ages for now. However, we do have the accurate birth dates, through Íslendigabók. Because it's only semi-public (so that only Icelanders can access it) it may be considered doxxing under WP:BLPPRIVACY. However when a singer has their own article, most of the time their birth date is given without any sources and since I don't think the band members of Hatari would object to their birth dates being here, I am not sure if we shouldn't just include it. Please let me know what you think. Sparkle666 (talk) 09:32, 5 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The ages/birth dates need to be sourced one way or another. If Íslendigabók can be reliably referenced, that'd be fine. IceWelder [✉] 11:51, 6 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@IceWelder:I did ask in the tea house, but if we can use this, do you know how we would denote it? We only have indirect access to the dates on Íslendingabók through the Hatari Translations Tumblr, so we may need to say that. Sparkle666 (talk) 20:57, 25 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

There should be an Icelandic Wikipedian who can independently verify this. I'm assuming there is no direct link that could be cited (whether it is available to the general public or not)? IceWelder [✉] 07:36, 30 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I would consider the Tumblr user an independent verification, since I trust her. So unless there is a way with the Wikipedian's help to give a link or a comparable kind of source we can't otherwise get, I wouldn't look for another user to verify.Sparkle666 (talk) 14:26, 30 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]