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A fact from Harvester Vase appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 18 October 2023 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that the Harvester Vase (pictured), a Minoan carved stone rhyton of circa 1550 to 1500 BC, includes a figure who may have fallen over drunk?

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11, 440 views Johnbod (talk) 03:03, 19 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was: promoted by Graearms talk 23:43, 5 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Harvester Vase; fallen-over man at centre

... that the Harvester Vase (pictured), a Minoan carved stone rhyton of c. 1550 to 1500 BC, includes a figure who may have fallen over drunk? Source: *Hood, Sinclair, The Arts in Prehistoric Greece, p. 146, 1978, Penguin (Penguin/Yale History of Art), ISBN 0140561420 "...his companion whose head appears at his waist level; a drunk, or perhaps...."
Dr. Senta German, "Harvester Vase," in Smarthistory, August 16, 2018, accessed September 27, 2023, https://smarthistory.org/harvester-vase/. "...There is one exception to this rhythm: near the back of the group, one man turns to look behind him, perhaps because, it would appear, another has fallen just at his back."
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Johan Floderus (diplomat) (in progress)

Created by Johnbod (talk) and Happyecheveria (talk). Nominated by Johnbod (talk) at 00:03, 28 September 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Harvester Vase; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

Date, length, hook, paraphrase check, QPQ ok. Image free on commons. --Soman (talk) 16:51, 30 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Size

Can someone add a note of the size of the vase? 217.183.86.68 (talk) 09:16, 18 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Done: there's no point being too precise over the total height, since the bottom is missing, but I've added the height of the surviving fragments and the diameter. UndercoverClassicist ^T·C 11:41, 18 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Figural/figurative art

The sentence The vase is unusual in Minoan art, where detailed depictions of ordinary people are otherwise virtually unknown was cited to Hood 1978: p. 145. I can't find anything to support that quote in Hood, and it's fairly obviously wrong by what we know in 2023, and indeed what we knew in 1978. See plenty of examples from Knossos alone, let alone Akrotiri (here, here and here, or from metalwork like the Vapheio Cups (at least one of which is Cretan; Hood may well have considered both to be) and the Silver Siege Rhyton found at Mycenae but generally considered Cretan. I've removed that statement for now. UndercoverClassicist ^T·C 09:09, 19 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I can't be bothered to argue with you, or touch the article again while you are around. Btw, I will let your huge and brazen flouting of WP:CITEVAR go this time, but you should read and follow it. I often just revert cite-banditry like this. Johnbod (talk) 13:27, 19 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]