Talk:Harry Tombs

A fact from Harry Tombs appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 18 December 2021 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Harry Tombs established the first New Zealand fine-arts press?

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Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 17:54, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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~~... that Harry Tombs published the first New Zealand fine arts press?~~ Source: Harry Hugo Tombs

Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Hermann Bausinger

5x expanded by Therapyisgood (talk). Self-nominated at 18:14, 30 November 2021 (UTC).[reply]

Article was nominated within the past 7 days of expansion. Original word count for prose before expansion was 255 while current word count is 2,150 and passes qualification. Article has over 1,500 words in prose. Article is worded neutrally. Earwig turned up with no copyright violations. Citation is a concern, as there are only 2 sources used for this article, with the first cited 4 times and the second source cited once. QPQ is done and hook is interesting. lullabying (talk) 17:15, 1 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Lullabying: what exactly is the issue? There's really only the one source, completeness isn't a requirement for DYK. Therapyisgood (talk) 17:20, 1 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

With so little sources, I'm not sure if it establishes notability. lullabying (talk) 18:42, 3 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:ANYBIO point 3. Therapyisgood (talk) 19:14, 3 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'd agree that more sources would be good, particularly since this is based on something that's already a tertiary source (and sometimes seems to veer a bit close to that source). There's some decent info in this article, if you have JStor access, and a lot more in this doctoral dissertation. As another note, the hook doesn't quite make sense: it should be "founded the first fine arts press in New Zealand" or "was the first to publish fine art books in New Zealand" or something, but one doesn't publish a press--a press publishes. blameless 00:42, 4 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Added the journal source. Changed wording in article. Changed wording in hook. How about:

Alt 1: ... that Harry Tombs established the first New Zealand fine arts press? Therapyisgood (talk) 14:44, 6 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for adding some sources. I think ALT1 is a good hook. I would prefer more sources but I think this would be good to go. lullabying (talk) 06:00, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1 to T:DYK/P4

Clarification needed

I've heard of a printing press and I've heard of the press, but I'm not sure exactly what a press is.
P.S. If applicable, what was the name of Harry Tombs' first fine arts press? – MrPersonHumanGuy (talk) 13:36, 18 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]