Talk:Harry J. Sisson
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Harry Sisson EU Citizenship
[edit]Hello,
it is important to include Harry’s dual citizenship with Ireland. Claiming Harry is an “American” social media influencer without including his Irish citizenship is misleading because he has spent more of his life in Ireland and other countries than in the United States. He became involved in U.S. policies the year he moved to the United States in 2020 at the age of 17. Please include this in the opening paragraph. Thank you 111.118.219.234 (talk) 09:09, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
- Very important to note, he was born in Singapore, before living in Dubai then Ireland, before immigrating to the US in 2020. 2604:CA00:160:67B1:0:0:E60:12D0 (talk) 12:51, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
- He did not “immigrate” to the United States as he was already a citizen. It is important to say “European American social media influencer” or such in the first paragraph. His parents are heavily involved in Irish and EU politics, and so is Harry at times. There also needs to be a section that at least lists his citizenship which should only include the United States and Ireland (EU) as Singapore does not allow dual citizenship. 111.118.219.234 (talk) 18:14, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
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The opening paragraph should change "American influencer" to "European influencer" or "European-American influencer". He is legally European as he is a citizen of Ireland. His parents are heavily involved in EU Politics. He started posting political content since before he even stepped foot in the United States at the age of 17. Claiming he is American is misleading when he was born in Singapore, lived briefly in the United Arab Emirates then grew up in Ireland at a private school. He spent substantial amount of time in other parts of Europe as well as an EU citizen. It would not be consistent with other pages of celebrities to claim Harry is solely American. His European citizenship needs to be included. 49.255.51.130 (talk) 04:51, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. M.Bitton (talk) 12:56, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
- Source: “I grew up in Dublin, Ireland but I live in New York City.” (YouTube: Liberal boy influencer Harry Sisson meets his idol, Joseph R. Biden, in the Oval Office) and he has said on his Q&A TikTok LIVEs that he is a dual citizen of Ireland and United States. It is extremely misleading to not include the fact that he is also legally a European. He did not grow up in America. Please replace “Harry J. Sisson (born 2002) is an [American] influencer” with European, European-American, or even perhaps Irish-American and include his citizenships in the profile. 101.115.199.49 (talk) 14:32, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
- Random YouTube videos generally don't meet our definition of WP:RS. Please provide a citation to an academic journal, a mainstream news outlet, a book from a major publishing house, a .edu website, or a statement from a website or social media channel verifiably controlled by Sisson. Chetsford (talk) 01:20, 19 February 2025 (UTC)
- Prove that he’s American 123.103.221.5 (talk) 06:18, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
- Harry Sisson (HarryJSisson):
- ”I went to school in Dublin, Ireland. Not a single active shooter drill was done. Wasn’t necessary.
- During my first week of school after moving back to the US, I was huddled into a corner with my classmates.”
- - May 2022 on his X
- (https://x.com/harryjsisson/status/1530316396504264704) 49.255.51.130 (talk) 06:23, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
- Random YouTube videos generally don't meet our definition of WP:RS. Please provide a citation to an academic journal, a mainstream news outlet, a book from a major publishing house, a .edu website, or a statement from a website or social media channel verifiably controlled by Sisson. Chetsford (talk) 01:20, 19 February 2025 (UTC)
- Source: “I grew up in Dublin, Ireland but I live in New York City.” (YouTube: Liberal boy influencer Harry Sisson meets his idol, Joseph R. Biden, in the Oval Office) and he has said on his Q&A TikTok LIVEs that he is a dual citizen of Ireland and United States. It is extremely misleading to not include the fact that he is also legally a European. He did not grow up in America. Please replace “Harry J. Sisson (born 2002) is an [American] influencer” with European, European-American, or even perhaps Irish-American and include his citizenships in the profile. 101.115.199.49 (talk) 14:32, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
Harry Sisson is a citizen of European Union
[edit]Hello, please change “an American influencer” to “a European influencer” or “a European-American influencer” as Harry Sisson has Irish citizenship according to his TikTok LIVE Q&As and the video of him in the Oval Office with Joseph Biden. He is legally European under the Lisbon Treaty. It is completely disingenuous to call him American when he tells the 46th President “I grew up in Dublin, Ireland but I live in New York.” People need to know to which countries he holds legal obligations to since he is a political figure now. 2405:6E00:2651:BC4E:9D7:60C8:8786:7726 (talk) 14:52, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
Not done Please provide reliable sources for the change you want made. Chetsford (talk) 01:16, 19 February 2025 (UTC)
Please change “American Influencer” to “Irish-American Influencer”
[edit]Harry Sisson is a citizen of Ireland and grew up in Dublin, Ireland according to himself when speaking with President Joe Biden in the Oval Office. There are clips on YouTube of his conversation with President Biden where he says this. His parents are also heavily involved in Irish and European Union politics. Transparency in his dual citizenship is important to the integrity of Wikipedia or this Wikipedia page should be deleted if you are not going to allow transparent undeniably true information. 65.181.23.129 (talk) 01:00, 19 February 2025 (UTC)
Not done Please provide reliable sources for the change you want made. Chetsford (talk) 01:16, 19 February 2025 (UTC)
- This is a lie. He literally cited the YouTube video “Liberal boy influencer Harry Sisson meets his idol, Joseph R. Biden, in the Oval Office” where Harry Sisson says “I live in New York but I grew up in Dublin, Ireland”. Stop hiding that the kid is European. It’s misrepresentation to say he’s an American influencer when he grew up in Ireland. 123.103.221.5 (talk) 06:17, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
- YouTube videos are not a universally reliable source. If it's a YouTube video from an account controlled by an otherwise reliable source, it might be a reliable source. But as of this moment, no one has been able to actually provide a link to said video, nor even the name of the account that uploaded it. So, an allegation that a random YouTube video might exist but that we can't actually view it, we just have to take the word of an anonymous IP address that claims it exists, is not sufficient to overcome the significant source veracity requirements required under our WP:BLP policy. Chetsford (talk) 06:28, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
- I gave u the name of the video. Wikipedia doesn’t let me post the link. Here is a link from Google videos: https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&sca_esv=1997917216045473&hl=en-us&q=Liberal+boy+influencer+Harry+Sisson+meets+his+idol,+Joseph+R.+Biden,+in+the+Oval+Office&udm=7&fbs=ABzOT_Dgt8iPZ9gW18rC6PlWgCdc1D_JMUuheiZDX6zm8J7gz6KTOxGAX5XUkk8BOOu6U3trIZRMfO_z8E30mgdbViPfVKm1NnctoOSUFGdao2kgPzKJ55kMJ5sryix8G1XrfpbSPsX1-HWCbmxAcWAUdHnQkW1Cr6KpjmioGa2AFZW3ap8zyJB7_QRqFB_XChcjXjcfl7YA60FDRS_x5y1Zxn93FrsN-RWd4SVsDTkG6u-NUglQ9Q4&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi0gaf-n9SLAxWre2wGHQIlFHwQtKgLegQIDBAB&biw=402&bih=675&dpr=3 123.103.221.5 (talk) 07:33, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
- Here is his own tweet: https://x.com/harryjsisson/status/1530316396504264704 123.103.221.5 (talk) 07:34, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
- Here is another video of Harry saying he grew up in Dublin, Ireland: https://x.com/akafaceus/status/1828158406370435271?s=46 123.103.221.5 (talk) 07:41, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
- Also another source showing Harry is European:
- https://lemonadamedia.com/podcast/political-thirst-traps-hacktivism-gen-z-for-change/
- “Harry Sisson
- Yeah. So, you know, I first started getting involved in politics back in 2016. I was living in Ireland at the time, and, you know, being in Europe and kind of watching the 2016 election unfold from there with all these, you know, these European folks being like, what is going on America? I’m like, I know, right? But then, you know, similar to Olivia, when the COVID pandemic struck, I was meant to give him my TED talk, and it got cancelled because of COVID. And so I was kind of inside and I was like, bored, you know, I was just watching the news and everything unfold and I was like, I feel like I’m not doing enough. I feel like I have to, you know, correct some of the lies that are being told from the on the right and so in such so I was like, why not just hop on TikTok and start making videos and it just kind of kind of grew from there and it’s come to this point where you know, every day debating with conservatives and reading the news and keeping up with everything, and it’s definitely a grind. But it’s, you know, it’s amazing. It really is.“ 123.103.221.5 (talk) 07:48, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
- This [1] X post is not from Harry Sisson's X account. If it were, we might be able to use it under WP:ABOUTSELF. But it's from an account called @akafaceUS so would not be covered by ABOUTSELF. I'll let someone else look at the rest of the links. Chetsford (talk) 09:23, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
- Stop lying. Here is his own tweet as I posted before: https://x.com/harryjsisson/status/1530316396504264704 123.103.221.5 (talk) 09:44, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
- This [2] X post is not from Harry Sisson's X account. I don't know what else to tell you. You can activate the WP:EDITREQUEST flag if you'd like someone else to consider it, though. Or the other sources you provided, which I didn't look at. Chetsford (talk) 09:53, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
- The user is literally HarryJSisson as you can see in the link 123.103.221.5 (talk) 10:11, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
- This [2] X post is not from Harry Sisson's X account. I don't know what else to tell you. You can activate the WP:EDITREQUEST flag if you'd like someone else to consider it, though. Or the other sources you provided, which I didn't look at. Chetsford (talk) 09:53, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
- Stop lying. Here is his own tweet as I posted before: https://x.com/harryjsisson/status/1530316396504264704 123.103.221.5 (talk) 09:44, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
- This [1] X post is not from Harry Sisson's X account. If it were, we might be able to use it under WP:ABOUTSELF. But it's from an account called @akafaceUS so would not be covered by ABOUTSELF. I'll let someone else look at the rest of the links. Chetsford (talk) 09:23, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
- YouTube videos are not a universally reliable source. If it's a YouTube video from an account controlled by an otherwise reliable source, it might be a reliable source. But as of this moment, no one has been able to actually provide a link to said video, nor even the name of the account that uploaded it. So, an allegation that a random YouTube video might exist but that we can't actually view it, we just have to take the word of an anonymous IP address that claims it exists, is not sufficient to overcome the significant source veracity requirements required under our WP:BLP policy. Chetsford (talk) 06:28, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
- This is a lie. He literally cited the YouTube video “Liberal boy influencer Harry Sisson meets his idol, Joseph R. Biden, in the Oval Office” where Harry Sisson says “I live in New York but I grew up in Dublin, Ireland”. Stop hiding that the kid is European. It’s misrepresentation to say he’s an American influencer when he grew up in Ireland. 123.103.221.5 (talk) 06:17, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
EDIT REQUEST: Please change “American Influencer” to “Irish-American Influencer” for transparency
[edit]Harry Sisson is an Irish citizen and grew up in Ireland and got involved in U.S. politics before he moved to the U.S. while he was living in the EU. It is disingenuous to not mention his citizenships or where he grew up. He does not have the experiences of the average American. Sources:
1. Harry’s tweet: https://x.com/harryjsisson/status/1530316396504264704 “I went to school in Dublin, Ireland…”
2. Harry Sisson in a transcript from an interview: https://lemonadamedia.com/podcast/political-thirst-traps-hacktivism-gen-z-for-change/ “ Yeah. So, you know, I first started getting involved in politics back in 2016. I was living in Ireland at the time, and, you know, being in Europe and kind of watching the 2016 election unfold from there with all these, you know, these European folks being like, what is going on America? I'm like, I know, right?…” - Harry Sisson
3. His visit to the Oval Office with Joe Biden: https://vm.tiktok.com/ZT2fK9SNp/ “…I live in NYC but I grew up in Dublin, Ireland…” - Harry Sisson
4. Him discussing his birthplace and where he grew up: https://vm.tiktok.com/ZT2fKmPuD/ 123.103.221.5 (talk) 10:21, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
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Change American Influencer to European American Influencer 123.103.221.5 (talk) 11:02, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Replicative Cloverleaf (talk) 11:21, 21 February 2025 (UTC)