Talk:Harold Wilson plot allegations

Credit where credit's due

wilson was prime minister from 1964-1670 then he was prime minister again from 1974-1976 Other than a general mass cleanup of this article needed, the allegations attributed to this 'new BBC documentary' here and on Harold Wilson were surely published in 'The Pencourt File' by Penrose and Courtier years and years and years ago, and possibly even before then in a newspaper. Anyone have a copy handy who can point out what the doc said that the book didn't? --Aim Here 15:37, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

I have a copy of The Pencourt File -- but don't own a TV, so didn't see the doc! Gah! However, will gladly check any necessaries if someone would care to give me pointers at what the doc might have duplicated. The 'newspapers' suggestion won't help much -- nearly all the reportage that came out of the Wilson plot allegations was either Pencourt's, or after the book. As I say, if some kind soul will give a precis of the doc's main points, I'll gladly play wiki-'battleships' ... Garrick92 17:58, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

The doc is here: http://www.guba.com/watch/3000014882/How-MI5-destroyed-the-Prime-Minister-of-Great-Britain Stax68 (talk) 00:33, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

Hoax tag and Clockwork Orange

User:Rambutan has placed a {{hoax}} tag on this article, without explaining what the concern is. He has also done the same at Clockwork Orange (plot) and I managed to get him to state his problem there, which was that the article supposedly treated the Clockwork Orange plot as a proven fact (although I dispute this, and his complaint was more of a POV issue anyways, so I changed the tag there). I don't know what the beef is with this particular article, since the crossover between the Clockwork Orange paragraphs here and the Clockwork Orange (plot) article is fairly minimal. As an aside, the Clockwork Orange paragraphs mostly cover Wright's material, and it's not immmediately clear how much of Wright's work was related of the Clockwork Orange project that Colin Wallace was involved with, so I changed the heading.--Aim Here 21:00, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Article needs a good editor

What a mess this article has become. I have the impression someone may have "cut" the section about the conspiracy theories out of the main Harold Wilson article and "pasted" it here into a existing more detailed article. As a result, we have, inter alia, repetititon galore (e.g., two different trudges through the King-Mountbatten fiasco). Does someone have the motivation and energy to knock all this into shape? Nandt1 (talk) 00:32, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Note: The new and inexperienced user who deleted the section from the Harold Wilson article and pasted it here has responded to my message to his/her discussion page: "I apologise for deleting the information on Harold Wilson conspiracy theories: I only intended to shorten the section on Harold Wilson, but it was not my intention to cause any mess." I have therefore reverted the changes to both articles, leaving the present article as it was prior to the changes of Sept. 5. Nandt1 (talk) 10:39, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Clarification needed!

Section 'The 1968 Plot', last paragraph, last sentence. Sorry, but who is the 'Williams' mentioned here? VapourGhost (talk) 10:02, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

It is unclear, the book itself should be consulted. Gareth E Kegg (talk) 12:21, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

"Williams" was Wilson's former private secretary, Baroness Marcia Falkbender (then known as Marcia Williams). Ronie74 (talk) 07:44, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

in popular culture – well, not all that popular

One episode of The Sandbaggers is about a spy in the Cabinet, considered to have a good chance of becoming PM. Could that be an allusion? (If I remember right, his double life comes to light after a road accident in Germany, and the episode ends with Burnside and Caine plotting to arrange a road accident when the minister travels to Malaysia.) —Tamfang (talk) 21:47, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

1968 "coup"

The alleged 1968 coup plot was nothing of the sort. If the account is true, one crazy journalist was merely suggesting that if the government collapsed Mountbatten or a similar leader might have to step in. That is far from suggesting that the government be removed illegally.Royalcourtier (talk) 09:26, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

There was no alleged coup? Really?

REVEALED: Queen stopped coup against Labour Government in 1968 QUEEN ELIZABETH II stopped a coup against the Labour Government in 1968, when leading personalities including one of the monarch’s relatives came together to form a unity government, a historian has revealed.By ALICE SCARSI PUBLISHED: 22:31, Sun, Aug 18, 2019 | UPDATED: 08:51, Mon, Aug 19, 2019 

Lord Mountbatten, Prince Charles’s great uncle and mentor, discussed plans to take down Prime Minister Harold Wilson’s Government in 1968 and was even thinking about leading the new coalition government himself, according to a new biography of the Mountbattens by historian Andrew Lownie.

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Mr Lownie wrote in his book The Mountbattens - Their lives and loves: “It was beginning to emerge that Mountbatten had shown far more interest than he, or the others, had earlier admitted.” https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1167295/queen-news-lord-mountbatten-biography-jeremy-corbyn-unity-government-brexit-latest Peter K Burian (talk) 03:13, 13 December 2019 (UTC)

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