Talk:Harmolodics

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"Official Website"

I would strike out the link http://www.harmolodic.com/ until the site is really there (i.e. a bit more out of construction). regards --Peu (talk) 20:44, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Aesthetics vs Theory

This appears to tout a personal style, something like Impressionism, rather than an objective technique or analytical essence (the sort of things which music theory is based upon). Even in that context, it appears to be more of personal expression than of a recognized or widespread style. The article should probably not be in the theory tree at all. 24.242.14.23 (talk) 21:14, 9 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know. It's hard to say what it is at all. Grove seems pretty dubious: "The nature and application in Coleman's music of harmolodic improvisation are unclear [my emphasis] but, insofar as Coleman's explanation can be understood, it apparently involves the simultaneous sounding, in different tonalities and at different pitches (determined by, for example, a notional change of clef) but in otherwise unchanged form, of a single melodic or thematic line; the procedure produces a type of simple heterophony. More generally the harmolodic theory espouses principles already well established in free jazz, namely equality among instruments (rather than the traditional separation between soloist and accompaniment) in harmonically free collective improvisation. The theoretical underpinnings of harmolodic theory are extremely suspect...." TheScotch (talk) 07:56, 12 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It's hard to tell what harmolodics really is, but I wouldn't call it just a personal style--it's something others have adopted as well as being an approach that Ornette led his whole band to use together. I think the sticking point is more to do with the fact that it's more intuitive than analytical, but that might in fact be the point of it. Ccrrccrr (talk) 18:18, 15 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

In any case, it seems to me the solution is to merge Harmolodics with Ornette Coleman, allowing Harmolodics to redirect to Ornette Coleman. TheScotch (talk) 09:48, 19 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Well, one effect of that would be that the "Ornette Coleman" article would show up in Category:Record labels established in 1995, Category:Defunct record labels of the United States, and Category:Verve Music Group labels, because this article is also about the Harmolodic record label. Unless you meant merging only the text in the "Description" section? -- Gyrofrog (talk) 16:40, 19 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]