Talk:Hanni (singer)

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Hanni is not dual national[edit]

The article that says she is misleading has no real evidence that she is a dual national. She is of Vietnamese ethnicity but is born in Australia. She has never lived in Vietnam, so she can not be a Vietnamese national but only a Australian national. https://www.aph.gov.au/~/media/Committees/economics_ctte/estimates/sup_1516/Treasury/answers/SBT148-150_Ludwig_Attachment.pdf states if she is born in Australia, she is of Australian national/citzenship.

There is no evidence that she is a Vietnamese dual national with Australia. Especially being born in 2004. Her parents were of Australian citizenship when Hanni was born. So it is impossible for her to be other than an Australian citzen.

The original author of the korean entertainment news article is only one only article that states this misinformation. It could be a korean to english translation error or a article to stir up controversy but there are no facts or evidence to prove that Hanni Pham is a dual nationality. Hence the reference is removed since its is false regarding her single Australian nationality Lightningwhitefox (talk) 12:06, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This says she's a dual national. You need a reliable source that says she's not a dual national - we only go by what sources expressly say. You cannot work it out through your own knowledge and research - that's prohibited under Wikipedia's policies. See WP:OR. DeCausa (talk) 13:08, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Lightningwhitefox According to WP:VERIFY, quote "In the English Wikipedia, verifiability means people using the encyclopedia can check that the information comes from a reliable source. Its content is determined by previously published information rather than editors' beliefs, opinions, experiences, or previously unpublished ideas or information. Even if you are sure something is true, it must have been previously published in a reliable source before you can add it". The Korea Times (removed 6RR via revision: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6) is not the only source stating the subject as dual nationality; there are multiple reliable sources of similar reputability regardless of languages with the same information. However, per WP:CITEBOMB, we (the editors that contributed to Hanni (singer)) don't include all of them here. Therefore, the statement you made "There is no evidence that she is a Vietnamese dual national with Australia. Especially being born in 2004. Her parents were of Australian citizenship when Hanni was born. So it is impossible for her to be other than an Australian citzen" contradicts the VERIFY policy. Additionally, your rationale, quote from edit summary "I am an Australian Vietnamese like Hanni and know that if she is born here, she can't be dual a national with Vietnam" falls under Wikipedia:ORIGINAL RESEARCH. As stated in ORIGINAL RESEARCH, quote "On Wikipedia, original research means material—such as facts, allegations, and ideas—for which no reliable, published source exists ... To demonstrate that you are not adding original research, you must be able to cite reliable, published sources that are directly related to the topic of the article and directly support the material being presented".

@DeCausa FYI, the latest revision currently contradicts your reply due to prevent WP:3RR violation from the involved editors. Pinging @Btspurplegalaxy should you wish to comment on this topic that you reverted on earlier. Also pinging @Poirot09 and @Dumbcat79, whom has the highest contributions to this article for their comments, if the deleted materials including the source should be restored (if not rollback yet) or if the materials including the source should be deleted (if rollbacked). — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 13:19, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]