Talk:Habar Yoonis
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193.220.44.135 22:08, 22 September 2006 (UTC)Grand Somal Few would dispute that, the recent parliamentary elections seem to point that way , on nobility I think their steeped and observant in Somali culture which somehow gives them the aura of nobility and aristocracy.
POV
[edit]Seems to me the first paragraph after the POV tag is obviously 1)written by someone with a very strong POV in regards to this topic, and 2) is such atrocious English that one wonders if any of it belongs in an English encyclopedia? --Bill W. Smith, Jr. 21:53, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
- Thank you for removing the paragraph I was questioning. It is, however, bad wikimanners to remove someone elses comments from a talk page (other than a personal talk page you own) without archiving. --Bill W. Smith, Jr. 04:26, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
Sir Richard Burton
[edit]We need to cite a source for the Richard Burton quote. Furthermore I don't see why his portrait merits inclusion in this article. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 18:17, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
- The section has since been removed. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 22:08, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
Maintenance
[edit]This article needs to cite its sources, particularly concerning assertions of aristocracy, territorial dominance, etc. The clan lineage section also needs cleanup (e.g. pruning) and (speaking as a non-Somali) it would be helpful to see all that information placed in some sort of context. I have tagged the article for maintenance, but various editors (mostly anonymous, from within the 88.105.xxx.xxx IP range) are removing the {{Unreferenced}} and {{Cleanup-confusing}} tags from this article. I've left messages (e.g., {{drmmt}}) for the individual editors, but this seems pointless as the IP address keeps changing. I've requested semi-protection for the article. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 22:08, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
Revisions
[edit]The whole article requires revision as it appears it has been written by a child. It is confusing and out of context. The spelling is horrendous and the grammar even worse. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mali0208 (talk • contribs) 09:52, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
The is actually an adopted clan which settled amoung the Habar Yonis clan in 1972 and decided to change their name to Damal Muuse. About 60% to 70% of this clan which use to be known as Dir Rooble still claim to be Dir while the remaining 40% adopted the new name Damal Muuse. In the Mudug area, the clan is still considered as Dir and they are still attached to as clients to there previous masters, the Suleyman Cabdalle( Agoon and Dabac) and the Abdi Cabdalle(Fiqi Muhumad and Laxmar). The Somaliland politician Gabooso is from this clan and his grand father use to claim the Saleeban Cabdalle and he acted as a minor elder in the Guurti of that clan. Some second cousines of Gaboose are still in Galkacyo region even though they rejected being Habar Yonis and continue to claim Dir Rooble
1- Roble Damal == 2- Adan Damal ==
Suggestions
[edit]The Damal Muuse are sheegad and should not be included in this page:
The is actually an adopted clan which settled amoung the Habar Yonis clan in 1972 and decided to change their name to Damal Muuse. About 60% to 70% of this clan which use to be known as Dir Rooble still claim to be Dir while the remaining 40% adopted the new name Damal Muuse. In the Mudug area, the clan is still considered as Dir and they are still attached to as clients to there previous masters, the Suleyman Cabdalle( Agoon and Dabac) and the Abdi Cabdalle(Fiqi Muhumad and Laxmar). The Somaliland politician Gabooso is from this clan and his grand father use to claim the Saleeban Cabdalle and he acted as a minor elder in the Guurti of that clan. Some second cousines of Gaboose are still in Galkacyo region even though they rejected being Habar Yonis and continue to claim Dir Rooble
1- Roble Damal == 2- Adan Damal ==
Clan Structure requires major revision as it does not need to be that long; all it needs to be noted are the major HY tribes without going into families. E.g
HY
Cali Siciid
Carre Siciid
Carre Siciid Isaaxaq Carre Muuse Carre Dandaan Carre Kuul Carre Gambo Carre Ismaciil Carre
Ismaciil Carre Yoonis Ismaciil (Sacad Yonis) Muuse Ismaciil Cabdalle Ismaciil
Cabdalle Ismaciil Idareys Cabdalle Muuse Cabdalle Cumar Cabdalle Cumar Cabdalle Ugaadh Cumar Kalliil cumar Aadan Cumar Aadan Cumar Cigaal Aadan Maxamed Aadan
cilmi Aadan — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.55.75.231 (talk) 13:12, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
Rooble Maxamed (Carabala) (A)Baho Rooble (B)Samatar aadan Xildiid Maxamed
Xildiid Maxmed Abokor Xildiid Xasan Xildiid Xuseen Xildiid Cismaan Xildiid
Cismaan Xildiid Cali Cismaan Cabdi Cismaan Muumin Cismaan Xirsi Cismaan
Basic Structure
[edit]I agree whole wholeheartedly. Its best to use the basic structure below:
1 Habar Yonis (Saciid Ismciil)
1.1 Cali Saciid 1.2 Carre Saciid 1.2.1 Isaaxaq Carre 1.2.2 Gambo Carre 1.2.3 Dandaan Carre 1.2.4 Kuul Carre 1.2.5 Muse Carre 1.2.6 Ismaciil Carre 1.2.6.1 Muse Ismaciil 1.2.6.2 Cabdalle Ismaciil 1.2.6.2.1 Idareys Cabdalle 1.2.6.2.2 Muuse Cabdalle 1.2.6.2.2 Cumar Cabdalle 1.2.6.3 Yonis Ismaciil 1.2.6.3.2 Jibriile Xasan 1.2.6.3.2 Reer Maxamuud 1.2.6.3.2 Idareys
please help complete the above partial list by continuing with the same structure.. Thanks.
I think one of the main issues might be that Somalis are taught to recite their lineage from memory as very young children. While this works for the oral tradition of Somalia, it just doesn't translate well into a neat, grammatically-correct English dictionary. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.237.207.44 (talk • contribs) 16:51, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
Claims
[edit]The editors' claims to dominating regional politics, past and present in Somaliland seems boastful and in some cases downright fictitious. That is certainly the case in the section about the sultans of habar yoonis either uniting the region for the first time or being the first to impose taxes and so forth. The editor needs to either provide references to these alleged deeds or remove the section. Anyone familiar with Somali clan politics knows that boasting about or blustering your respective clan’s image, whether its territory, wealth or being a family of warriors is a favourite pastime for most Somalis. Terms like Emir ”prince in Arabic” is not in use in the Somali language. Qodaal123 (talk) 12:37, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
Big deletion
[edit]Please can someone familiar with the subject check this big deletion by an IP? Thanks. Certes (talk) 09:58, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
Habar Yoonis
[edit]The Habar Yoonis (Somali: Habaryoonis) is a Somali clan, part and largest Isaaq group. Habar is the maternal grouping in the Somali tribal segmentations. Said Garxajis married, from the Daarood sub-clan, Geri Koombe (Aba-Yoonis). The most numerous Said Garxajis are from his Daarood (Aba-Yoonis) wife and hence the maternal segment's name. The clan includes Eidegalla, Yibir, Arap and Ayoup of the Isaaq clan. Also included in Habar Yoonis is the Eliye of the Issa clan, and finally the Harti sub-clan of the Abgaal and Sacad sub-clan of the Habar Gedir, both of which comprise of the larger Hawiye clan. As well, the Sheikhal, Saleebaan, and Ceyr of the Hawiye, the Ashraaf clan of the Rahanweyn are also included. The The Reer Isaaq sub-clan of the Ogaden and the Reer Abokor sub-clan of Garhajis are both included, in the Habar Yoonis. The Habar Yoonis is a sub-clan of the Sheik Isaaq clan. They are famous for being the only sub-clan in Somaliland that has a sizable population in all the cities of Somaliland and Ethopia's Somali region. One of the ancestral cities of the Habar Yoonis is Burco and the Aroori plain, which they still inhabit and control to a great degree.
The Burco countryside where the Habar Yoonis dominate to this date. Contents [hide] • 1 An aristocratic clan • 2 Clan structure o 2.1 Cali Saciid o 2.2 Carre Siciid o 2.3 Isaxaaq care Siciid o 2.4 Ismaciil Carre Siciid o 2.5 Cabdalle Ismaaciil o 2.6 Muuse Cabdalle o 2.7 Abokor Looge o 2.8 Faarax Maxamed • 3 Adan Cumar • 4 Mohamed Adan • 5 Xildiid Maxamed • 6 Cismaan Xildiid • 7 Xirsi Cismaan o 7.1 Ceynaashe Xirsi o 7.2 Sugulla Ceynaashe o 7.3 Muuse Ismaaiil o 7.4 Yoonis Ismaaciil • 8 Muuse Care • 9 Has Three Sons o 9.1 Habar Yoonis Sultans o 9.2 Idaares Abdalle • 10 References • 11 External links
An aristocratic clan This aristocratic clan's privileged position in society is evidenced by the fact that the first President of the Republic of Somaliland and her Territories was Abdurahman (Tuur) Ahmed, who hailed from the aforementioned clan. Additionally the largest sub-clan make-up of the Somaliland Parliament after the 2005 parliamentary elections was the Habar Yoonis. Clan structure
Parts of this article may be confusing or unclear.
Please help clarify the article. Suggestions may be on the talk page. (January 2007) Saciid Ismaaciil (Garxajis) Is Nick name and Has two sons Cali Saciid Carre Siciid • Carre Saciid (larger group)
Carre had seven sons: • Ismaaciil Carre (Cabdale, Muuse and Yoonis) • Muuse Carre(Ibraahim, Hassan and Damal) • Isxaaq Carre(Cabdale, Qasim and Kaliil) • Dandaan Carre • Kuul Carre • Gambo Carre • Makaahiil Carre Isaxaaq care Siciid 1. Abdalle Isaxaaq (Saalah, Cali, Ahmed [Rer Ugaadh iyo Ahmed Liig,botol jeclo, reer Yuusuf,reer Bahdoon,cali maca, 1. Salaah Abdalle 1. Hassan Salaah 2. Ahmed Salaah 1. Hussien Ahmed 2. Geeda Saluug 3. Salaah Geel 4. Mohamed Salaah 2. Ahmed Abdalle 3. Cali Abdalle 1. Qaasim Isaxaaq 2. Kaliil Isaxaaq Ismaciil Carre Siciid Ismaciil Carre, a branch of the Habar Yoonis, is considered to be the largest family branch of all branches within Somali clans. He is the only 4th generation descendant of Isxaaq who is buried along him in his tomb. His lineage was: Ismaciil, son of Carre, son of Said, son of Ismaiil, son of Sheikh Isaaq bin Ahmed. Ismaciil had three sons: Musse Ismaciil (Gadhweyne and Reer Cawl), Abdalle Ismaciil (Cumar Abdalle, Idarees Abdalle and Muuse Abdale) and Yonis Ismaciil (Sacad Yonis). Ismaciil Carre members are recognized to be the backbone of the SNM struggle against the rule of Somali dictator Siad Barre. Ismaciil Carre members live mostly in the Hawd Ethiopia, Burco, Erigabo, Nugaal, Sanaag and Togdheer regions of Somaliland. 1. Muuse Ismaacil (reer Awl + Gadhweyn) 2. Yoonis Ismaaciil (Sacad Yoonis) 3. Cabdalle Ismaaciil (majority of this section) Cabdalle Ismaaciil Cabdalle Ismaacil had three sons, the largest of his descendant are among the Cumar Cabdalle (Omar Abdalla). 1- Idrays Cabdalle 2- Muuse Cabdalle 3- Cumar Cabdalle Muuse Cabdalle 1- Looge 2- Maxamed Abokor Looge A- Cigaal Abokor B-Muuse Abokor (divisions of Muuse also missing) C- Cali Abokor (division of Cali also missing) Cigaal Abokor (the most resourceful) Has four sub-divisions 1)Maxamed Cigaal (reer Maxamed Casse) 2)Xassan Cigaal (reer Diiriye 3) Beyle Cigaal (the largest sub division of Cgaal Abokor) 4) Maax Cigaal (reer maax). Beyle Cigaal i subdivided into 1) Bagaalo (Muuse cabdi + Maxamed cabdi) 2) Farax cabdi and 3)Ismaaciil cabdi Faarax Maxamed A- Xasan Faarax B-Cali Faarax ( Bah Warsangali) C-Jibriil Faarax(Ba-Gumaroon) A- Xasan Faarax: 1- Cabdi Xasan 2-Cali Xasan == Cumar Cabdalle == had three sons: A- Ugaadh Cumar (a sub clan by itself) B- Kaliil Cumar C- Adan Cumar (which is the most numerous at this junction). Adan Cumar 3 sections: 1. Cigaal Adan (grouped into Gumbuur) 2. Maxamed Adan (the most numerous) 3. Cilmi Adan Mohamed Adan 2 sections: 1. Xildiid Maxamed (the most numerous) 2. Rooble Maxamed (Carabala). A- Baho Rooble B- Reer Samatar (the most numerous) Rooble/carabala, are the providers of Akils (Caaqil) for their alliane Baho ismail (Rooble Maxamed+Idarays cabdalle+Abokor xildiid) Xildiid Maxamed 4 sections: 1- Xasan Xildiid (grouped within Gumbuur alliance) 2- Xuseen Xildiid (reer Xuseen): A- Ismaaciil Xuseen B- Samtar Xuseen c- Galab Xuseen. 3- Abokor Xildiid (reer Abokor): A- Cali Abokor (most numerous) B- Ibraahin Abokor 4- Cismaan Xildiid (the most numerous) Cismaan Xildiid 1. Mumin Cismaan (Ba-Dhulbahnate 2. Cali Cismaan (Ba-Dhulbahante) 3. Cabdi Cismaan (Ba-Dhulbahnate) 4. Maxamed Cismaan (Ba-Dhulbahnate) 5. Xirsi Cismaan. Xirsi Cismaan 8 sections: 1. Ceynaashe Xirsi (17 sections) 2. Siciid Xirsi (reer Weyd + reer Waraabe and Cigaal) 3. Cabdi Xirsi (Cawd and Diiriye) 4. Cali Xirsi ( reer Warsame Cali and Shirwac Cali) 5. Faahiye Xirsi 6. yuusuf Xirsi(Gobdoon) 7. Cali Xirsi 8. Xildiid Xirsi. Ceynaashe Xirsi 17 sections 1. Axmed Ceynaashe 2. Liibaan Ceynaashe 3. Sugulla Ceynaashe ( 18 sections) 4. Guutaale Caynaashe 5. Guuleed Caynaashe [edit] Sugulla Ceynaashe 1. Diiriye Sugulla 2. Axmed Sugulla [edit] Muuse Ismaaiil The Muuse Ismaaciil sub-clan of the Habar Yoonis is the second in population after the Cabdalle Ismaaciil. They inhabit the Sanaag region in Somalia, and some parts of Sool around the district of Xudun. The Muuse Ismaaciil are the traditional inhabitants of the city of Maydh. Some sections of the Muuse Ismaaciil (reer Cawl) settle in Burco and parts of Ethopia around Gorgor and Qalocan area of Wardheer district. They traditionally had their own sultan who governed the eastern sections of the Habar Yoonis. • Sultaan Ducaale Muuse(1890-1955)was the first M.Ismaaciil sultan • Sultaan Cali Suldaan Ducaale (1920-1977) • Sultaan Rashid Sultan Cali the present sultan (b.1955). Muuse Ismaaciil tribal divisions are: • Salax Muuse • Maxamed Muuse (urursuge) • Saalax Muuse ( Tuurwaa) • Yoonis Muuse. The Tuurwaa are the most numerous and they are three sections: • Muuse Tuurwaa • Jibriil Tuurwaa (Xasan and Yoonis) (Qori Jarato) • Cismaan Tuurwaa The Cismaan and the Muuse Tuurwaa are the main divisions in terms of population in this stage of segmentation and they spilt as the following: Cismaan Tuurwaaa: • Xaamud Cismaan • Cawl Cismaan (reer Cawl) Xaamud Cismaan, 3 sections: • Maxamud Xaamud • Cabdale Xaamud • Cabdi Xaamud • Cawl Cismaan, Ugaadhyahan Cawl (1 son) , • Beyle Ugaadhyahan Cawl • Faarax Ugaadhyahan Cawl The Beyle Ugaahyahan are the largest and are the traditional enemy of the Daarood (Dhulbahante) sub-clan, this is the only major H.Y sub-clan that shares land with the Dhulbahante in the Hawd region. From this section of the clan hails the famous Guba poet Yawle. Beyle Ugaadhyahan • Maax Beyle • Gadiid Beyle • Cismaan Beyle (Yawle's sub-clan) • Adan Beyle. Notice some sub-clan division are missing, specially the Muuse Tuurwaa the second largest in Muuse Ismaaciil. Yoonis Ismaaciil Yoonis Ismaaciil is better known as the Sacad Yoonis subclan. Sacad Yoonis members live mostly in the eastern part of Somaliland, more specifically in Burco city, Sanaag, Sool, and western Nugaal Regions of Somaliland. Two of the 82 Somaliland parliament seats are held by Sacad Yoonis clan members. The link below is a visual breakdown of the Sacad Yoonis clan structure. http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Image:Sacad_yonis3.jpg 'Sacad's sons': • Hasan Sacad (largest branch) • Maxamed Sacad (Iidarays) • Maxamuud Sacad (Reer Maxamuud) Hasan Sacad had son called Jibriil Hasan Jibriil's sons, Barkad Jibriil, Rooble Jibriil, Adan Jibriil, Barkad Jibriil had four sons: • Cali Barkad • Hasan Barkad • Camaar Barkad • Jaamac Barkad Cali Barkad had three sons • Faahiye Cali (reer Faahiye Cali) • Ahmed Cali (reer Axmed Cali) • Naaleye Cali (reer Naaleeye) Faahiye Cali had three sons: • Bayle Faahiye • Caweer Faahiye (reer Caweer) • Xildiid Faahiye (reer Xildiid) Bayle faahiye had son Cumaar Bayle: Cumaar Bayle had eight sons: • Nuux Cumaar (Reer Nuux; First Sacad Yoonis Caaqil was reer Nuux, and still all Sacad Yoonis chief Caaqil is reer nuux; ch, Caaqil Saciid Xasan Cali) • Maxamed Cumaar (reer Xuseen) • Cabdale Cumaar (reer Cabdale) • Cali Cumaar • Xasan Cumaar • Xuseen Cumaar • jibriil Cumaar • Guuled Cumaar Nuux Cumaar had six sons "Reer Nuux" 1. Cali Nuux (reer Cali nuux) 2. Diiriye Nuux 3. Liibaan nuux 4. Guuled Nuux 5. Dibjir Nuux 6. Daahiir Nuux Cali Nuux had eight sons 1. Abokor cali (reer Abokor) 2. Wade Cali (reer Wade) 3. Rable Cali (reer Rable) 4. Magan Cali (reer Magan) 5. Ducaale Cali (reer Ducaale Cali) 6. Maxamuud Cali (reer Maxamuud Cali) 7. Axmed Cali (reer Axmed Cali) 8. Ibraahim (reer Ibraahim) Maxamed Sacad - Iidarays 1. Muse Samatar (largest group of the IIdarays) 2. Cabdi Samatar (split into Ba' Arab and Fiqi Egaal) 3. Reer Wacays Iidarays are the original inhabitants of Ceelafweyn (Ceelafween), a town between Burco and Ceerigabo in Sanaag province of Somaliland. Mahammed Nuur (Fiqi Egaal) was the first man to build a home near the famous water basin in the town. The town now has a sizable popualtion of habar-jeclo clan members who originally lived in the mountains in the vicinity of ceelafweyn. Iidarays also live in Ceerigabo, Burco, Dararweyne, and Xudun Area. There is a large diaspora population of Sacad Yoonis branches in the UK. Muuse Care Has Three Sons Ibrahim Muse, Hasan Muse and Damal Muse Habar Yoonis Sultans The royal sub-clan (the one that provides the Sultans) of the Habar Yoonis are the Reer Sugule, who hail from the Caynanshe branch of the Habar Yoonis. 1- The first H.Y Sultan was Sultan Diiriye Suguule (1760-1840) 2- Sultaan Amaan Sultan Diiriye (1790-1854). 3- Sultaan Xirsi Sultan Amaan (1824-1879) 4- Sultaan Cawd sultan Diiriye (1830-1899) In 1899 Sultan Cawd (Awd) was killed during a battle with the rival Daarood (Ogaden) tribe in western Ethiopia. There were 2 first cousins sultans each supported by different segments of the Habar Yoonis clan some Pro-Devrish and others opposed to it, the Pro-Devrish sultan Nuur A. Amaan eventually defeated his opponent Madar X. Amaan and for a period of 15 years him and his son held the sultantes, only after their death did the H.Y proclaimed him a sultan. 5- Sultaan Nuur Axmed Sultan Amaan (1844-1910)killed during the Devrish struggle. 6- Sultan Doolaal Sultan Nuur(1856-1917)also killed during the Devrish years. 7- Sultaan Madar Sultan Xirsi Amaan (1876-1938) 8- Sultaan Cali Sultan Madar (1900-1979) 9- Sultan Xirsi Qani (1916-1987) 10- Sultaan Yuusuf Sultan Xirsi Qani (1925-1991) 11- Sultaan Ciise sultan Xirsi Qani (1929-1999) 12- Sultan Cismaan Sultan Cali sultan Madar (b 1957) 13- Sultaan Maxamed Sultan Xirsi Qani (born 1967) Idaares Abdalle The oldest of the Abdalle Ismaciil sub-clan, who were also Sultans of the Habar Yoonis. Together with Reer Sugule (Current Emirs) they are known as "Reer Odweyne" after their town and where the Sultans reside. Before 1960. 1-Shermaarke Saalax Baasha (1790-1861) the conqueror of Zaylac and the man who for the first time in Somali history brought Zaylac under the rule of Somalis, the first Somali Qadiif who in 1825 with 5 cannons and 60 H.Y musketeers took Zaylac and forced its Arab ruler Maxamed Al Baari out. He was accorded the title of Qadiif Al Soomaal by Cabdixamiid Baasha and was presented with two Arab and one Turkish slave women. The founder of what was referred to as the Government of Zaylac. 2- Sultaan Diiriye Suguule (1760-1844) the first H.Y sultan and the originator of over 30 Somali idioms and sayings. 3- Boqor Xirsi Amaan the warrior king (1823-1879) the first founder of centralized northern Somali state, the first sultan who ever imposed regulated tax on both the coast of Berbera and Bulaxaar, coining the Somali term of "sed boqortooyo" before 'cashuur' was even known. The only power the Persian recognized in Somalia in their bid to counter Siiciid Baraqash and the first Somali man to be referred to King Amaan by the Qajar Shaah of Iraan in 1857. Every year via his connection to Suur sultanates of Oman he received his Royal Presents from Persia. His wars against the Kuumbo in furthering his borders south west to Somali Galbeed and his legendary death in the battle with his cousin Guuleed Xaaji is a legend even among his enemies the Kuumubs: Keysahaa aduun ina Amaan Koos Dhan Buu Heleye Isba kii bani Israel ma hadin kamana yaabayne Ragbuu keeno gali yidhi weysa soo kabiye Ragow Kibirka waa lagu kufaa taana hala ogaado. 4- Sultaan Nuur Amaan (1844-1910) the first sultan who declared war against the British and gave shelter to the Dervish when all Kuumbu sultanates including Garaad Cali Garaad Maxamud (who sent a letter to the Brits crying for their help against what he called new religious fanatics, and who was killed as result), Sultaan Cali Shire, Boqor Osman mahamoud sided with the colonials. The first battle of the Devrish took place in Burco in 1899 when Sultan Nuur Amaan led the new devrish to Burco and later was forced to withdrew. Sultaan Nuur Amaan abondened his Sultanate for the cause and later was killed some say by the Devrish some say by some Kuumbu's. 5- Xaaji Warsame Bulaale a.k.a Xaaji Waraabe (1862-1931) the man who much of the Dhilos owe their freedom from the Mad Mullah to. After 1919 when the Mad Mullah and his horde of camel wrestlers fled to Qoraxay 5000 strong harassing the Ogaadeen, Xaaji Warsame Bulaale assembled his famouse "Hagoogane" raiders in Buhoodle much to the uluation of the ungreatfull Dhilos in Buhoodle leading 5000 strong H.Y and H.J warriors in pursuit, having taken over Qoraxay and capturing Ismaaciil Futo Mire and most of the Mullah's herd and harem at last he chased him to Iimi where the Mullah at last died defacting from all orifices. 6- Engineer Said Faarax (1910-1963) the first Somali civil engineer and a graduate of Edinburgh University class of 1933, the designer of Burco city roads and much of colonial infrastructures. 7- Maxamud Axmed Cali the Father of Somali education, the first modern Somali educator. 8- Xaaji Yuusuf Xaaji Aadan (1914-2005) the first founder of Somali political party in Somaliland and poineer of Somali education also the composer of the Somali national anthem. 9- Maxamed Naxar the first chairman of the SNL before Maxamed Xaaji Ibraahim Cigaal and among its founders. 10- Sayid Axmed Sheekh Muuse (1910-1979) the founder of the first religious party Xizbul Allah in 1957 and first Somali graduate of Azhar university and the author of Xizbulaah wa Xizbul Shaydaan. 11-Mohamed Af-durdur one of the Sultan Diiriye advisers and most intelligent elders in Somali area. References Muj. Ahmed Ma'alin Haruun re-updated SayidMohamed Abdulahi Hassan External links • africa.upenn.edu Retrieved from "http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Habar_Yoonis" Categories: Articles lacking sources from December 2006 | All articles lacking sources | Cleanup from January 2007 | Wikipedia articles needing clarification | Somali clans | Ethnic groups in Ethiopia | Ethnic groups in Somalia Views • Article • Discussion • Edit this page • History Personal tools • Sign in / create account Navigation • Main page • Contents • Featured content • Current events • Random article interaction • About Wikipedia • Community portal • Recent changes • Contact Wikipedia • Donate to Wikipedia • Help Search
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Removal of list notable people
[edit]In order for a section of notable people to be included, each entry needs to be supported by a reliable source. I've included the list below for reference:
- Engineer Said Faarax (1910-1963) the first Somali civil engineer and a graduate of Edinbrough university class of 1933, the designer of Burco city roads and much of colonial infrastructures
- Xaaji Yuusuf Xaaji Aadan (1914-2005) the first founder of Somali political party in Somaliland and pioneer of Somali education also the composer of the Somali national anthem.
- Maxamed Naxar the first chairman of the SNL before Maxamed Xaaji Ibraahim Cigaal and among its founders.
- Sayid Axmed Sheekh Muuse (1910-1979) the founder of the first religious party Xizbul Allah in 1957 and first Somali graduate of Azhar university and the author of Xizbulaah wa Xizbul Shaydaan.
- Maxamud Axmed Cali - The Father of Somali education, the first modern Somali educator. (Also Brother of Abdirahman TUur)
- AbdiRahmaan Ahmed Ali (Tuur) - First President Of the Republic of Somaliland and last Chairman of the SNM.
- Jama Osman Kalun - Somali Fisher Minister and Deputy Prime Minister of Arta TNG.
- Col. Abdi Qadir Kosar 3rd - SNM Chairman.
- Col. Ahmed Mire - SNM Force Commander and leader of 27 May 1988 SNM force entered Burao.
- Hasan Aadan Wadadiid - one of the founders of the SNM in 1981.
- Maxamed Aadan Caws Yawle (1890-1953) - Famous Prominent Poet.
- Abdullah Maxamed Sultan - An Islamic leader who defended the Isaaq clan from the British around 1910 to 1933.
- Ali "Shiine" Abdirahman - The first Ever Somali commercial pilot.
- Haji Yussuf Iman - Famous tycoon and politician.
- Mouleed Ismail Jama - First Somali to go to Cambridge University in 1925.
- Saeed Mohammed 'Doobe' - One of the biggest landowners in Somalia and friend of King Faisal bin Abdul Azziz Al Saud of Saudi Arabia.
- Abdi Rahman Abdilahi Iro - chairman of Somaliland Parliament.
- Col. Hassan Kayd Walanwal - First East African to enter Sand Hurst Military Academy, and was the leader of the Somaliland Coup of 1961.
- Proffessor Sheikh Abdi Salaan Yasiin - SNM Founders and Teacher of King Saud University, Saudi Arabia.
- Mohamud Aadan Deri - Former Togdheer Governor and now Chairman of Togdheer Development Committee.
- Khadar - Owner of the (Ambassador Hotel)in Hargeisa, on of the Biggest Hotel in Somaliland .
- Muuse Farah Jambiir - Chief Editor of OGAAL News Paper Based in Hargeysa.
- Shiekh Mustafe Haaji Ismail Harun - Famous Somali Sheikh.
- Dr. Mohamed Abdi Gabose -, Member of SNM, Former Somaliland Interior Minister, Chairman of SAHAN Somaliland political party and famous doctor in Hargeysa.
- Mohamed Ibrahim Yassin Gabahaddi "Olaad or Colaad" - Founder and CEO of Daallo Airlines first Somaliland Airlines also a Member of SNM by setting up a money transfer in Djibouti to Somalia and Ethiopia the main money supply line for the SNM during the civil war.
- Adan Nuux Dulle - Famous BBC Broadcaster and Journalist
- Abdisalan Ibrahim Hereri - Famous BBC Broadcaster and Journalist
- Yusuf Xaaji Aadan Cilmi Qabiille
- Adan Ismail Hassan - SNM Western Europe spokesman (1994-2002) writer, academic and entrepreneur.
- Muj Ismaciil Xaaji Cabdi SNM Central Committee
- Muj. Said Mahamed Nour
- Muj. col. Libaahe
- Muj. M. Hashi "Lixle"
- Muj. A. Ibrahim Xandule
- Muj. Xussen Axmed Guled "Xusseen Dheere"
- Muj. Mahamed Ali
- Saeed Sheikh Mahamed Abdullah - PhD Economics University of Paris. SNM member. Founder of Hargeisa College of Applied Arts and Technology
- General Mohamed Ainanshe Gulied
- Muj. Col. harag wafi
- Muj. kharash-yare
- Muj. G-Sare. Ilkacase
Please only restore the individuals on a case by case basis if there is a reliable source supporting their inclusion.-- Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 17:43, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
Proposing redirect
[edit]The article has the same content as the main article Garhajis. I propose it be redirected. Much of the content has been copied from Garhajis. Felinepaw (talk) 15:06, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
- Still not enough reason to move the article since it's about a notable Somali clan. There is much research and academic work on the Habr Yunis(Habar Yoonis). The Garhajis of which the Habr Yunis belongs to, the name Garhajis is less used in history than the Habr Yunis. --Buraomagnificent (talk) 16:14, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
The Habar Yonis appear to be part of the Garhajis so the article is redundant given that the content was copied from the parent clan. Felinepaw (talk) 16:36, 16 June 2020 (UTC)- Yeah and Habar Awal, Habar Jeclo and Garhajis are part of Isaaq so are those pages redundant too? The Habar Yonis is a prominent clan and widely documented --Buraomagnificent (talk) 18:22, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
:You restored this article with content copied from the parent article. It was previously redirected for being redundant. It does not appear significant to warrant the article when the same information can be found in the Garhajis article. Felinepaw (talk) 18:52, 16 June 2020 (UTC)- If people want to know more about the Habar Yunis. They should visit this page. I will expand it each day and most of the content about Habr Yunis will be introduced in the Garhajis page but extensively explained on the Habr Yunis page. There is so much documentation on the clan. The content on the Garhajis page will be moved here and particular topics about the Habar Yoonis will only be introduced on the Garhajis page. --Buraomagnificent (talk) 19:49, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
- Strikethrough comments by confirmed sock, for more information please see WP:Sockpuppet_investigations/Middayexpress. --Kzl55 (talk) 12:38, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
- If people want to know more about the Habar Yunis. They should visit this page. I will expand it each day and most of the content about Habr Yunis will be introduced in the Garhajis page but extensively explained on the Habr Yunis page. There is so much documentation on the clan. The content on the Garhajis page will be moved here and particular topics about the Habar Yoonis will only be introduced on the Garhajis page. --Buraomagnificent (talk) 19:49, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
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