Talk:HM Prison Holloway

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What is confusing?

The article states "Confusingly, it stands at the end of a road bearing the name of another prison: Parkhurst Road." what is so confusing about this? HMP Holloway is in London and HMP Parkhurst is in the Isle of Wight. The two can hardly be confused. Deckchair 16:03, 2 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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If anyone's interested, I've proposed a new wikiproject for the creation and improvement of articles regarding specific prisons, internment camps, and detention centers here. --Cdogsimmons (talk) 01:57, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Famous inmates

Any that could be added to warrant a new section? Mac Dreamstate (talk) 00:33, 20 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Sources?

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Missing information

It is plainly very unlikely that both of these are true: "Holloway prison was opened in 1852 as a mixed-sex prison..." and "Until 1991, the Prison was staffed by Home Office appointed, female Prison Officers." There must be a "From" missing in the second sentence -- but given contemporary attitudes to female employment, it also seems fairly unlikely that the workforce became all-female when the prisoners did in 1903. Does anyone have any positive information on this? Phil PH (talk) 20:36, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Population statistic in the infobox

Palisades1, Stephencdickson, Philip Cross, Victuallers, Jack1956, should we use the population figure in the infobox now that the prison is not in use? It seems redundant to now include this statistic. Is it not standard procedure that prisons not in use do not include this figure? (Pinged recent editors). Helper201 (talk) 19:53, 9 January 2021 (UTC) No strong opinion.[reply]

It is of some interest whether closed or not--Stephencdickson (talk) 20:20, 9 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not disputing whether or not it is of interest. My point is that if its closed then its de facto population is going to automatically be 0 and people will automatically assume as such. Who would think a closed prison would have a population? It makes no sense. The logical conclusion of a closed prison is that it has no population; so why state its population? It just seems redundant. Helper201 (talk) 20:57, 9 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Since it is now closed, it does make sense to exclude the population figure from the infobox, but it still would be worth having some simple stats in the main text if they are known. — GhostInTheMachine ^{talk to me} 22:24, 9 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I own a four seater car. What was the population of Roman Britain? The population of an empty prison is a tricky point. If the prison has no prisoners then is it a prison? or a building that was one used as one? What if the prisoners are allowed to leave and return? If its the latter then is the population zero? or null. Find out the definition that wikidata use, because hand editing infoboxes is going to be phased out (IMO). The entry of "0 (as of March 2020)" is valueless. It says its a closed prison. That entry implies that its population in April and February 2020 may have been 27 or 27,000,000. How do we update "0 (as of March 2020)". Are we going to rely on Original research or should we ask the owners for an update each month? Surely 3,456 in March 1952 would be more useful Victuallers (talk) 09:29, 10 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Terminology

While it was 'His Majesty's Prison' 1901-52, at the time of its closure Holloway was 'Her Majesty's Prison' - how should this be indicated? Jackiespeel (talk) 12:38, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]