Talk:HMS Sportsman/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Peacemaker67 (talk · contribs) 05:55, 12 January 2019 (UTC)

This article is in good shape. A have a quite a few comments/queries:

• draught rather than draft in the body for a British ship
  • Sigh. There's always one of these, no matter what I do.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 20:00, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
• the range figures are reversed in the infobox
  • Yep.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 20:00, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
• perhaps add submerged after the speed in the range field of the infobox
  • Good idea.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 20:00, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
• no mention of ASDIC in Design and description?
  • Buried deeper in the source than I'd noticed--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 20:00, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
• any info available about the range of the deck gun?
  • Sure, but all weapon performance data is best saved for the class article.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 20:00, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
• suggest She was launched" to reduce repetition
  • Indeed.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 20:00, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
• perhaps add in what type of ships/submarines various HMS's were? eg the destroyer HMS Ambuscade, especially important for redlinked vessels
  • Think that I've caught all of these.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 20:00, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
• Holy Loch and Lerwick are duplinked, as are Gibraltar, Gulf of Genoa, Corsica, Algiers, GRT, Beirut, Aegean Sea, Monemvasia, Malta, Scapa Flow and ASDIC, some more than once
  • Yep.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 20:00, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
• perhaps add convoy numbers she protected on the North Russia route if known?
  • Source doesn't specify. I can assume they were JW and RA 53 based one the timing, but that would be OR. L293D (☎ • ✎) 02:05, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
• suggest "attempted to attack a German tugboat while surfaced"
  • Done. L293D (☎ • ✎) 02:05, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
• "special operations agents" were these Special Operations Executive people? If so, link SOE.
  • Possibly, but source doesn't say. L293D (☎ • ✎) 02:05, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
• I don't think "of 27/28" works, I think you need June
  • Agreed.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 02:27, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
• suggest "28 civilians and eight crew members aboard, of whom 12 and two survived"
  • Mixing digits and spelling out the numbers violates MOS, which says that you have to be consistent.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 02:27, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
• for "Italian armistice" link Armistice of Cassibile
  • Done.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 02:27, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
• "which had been sunk while trying to escape" probably worth mentioning that Italian ships were ordered to British ports as part of the Armistice conditions and the Germans tried to stop them
  • Good idea.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 02:27, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
• suggest Suda Bay, Crete
  • Yep.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 02:27, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
• "eighth war patrol"
  • Good catch.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 02:27, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
• 3838→3,838
  • Done.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 02:27, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
• Lenton states TA14 was a torpedo boat (I know the two are a bit interchangeable for the Germans, but TA stands for Torpedoboot Ausland), ex-Italian Turbine, redlink?
  • Done.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 20:00, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
• 4685→4,685
  • Done.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 02:27, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
• suggest POW-transporter→prisoner-of-war (POW) transport
  • Done. L293D (☎ • ✎) 15:10, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
• suggest "Of the 3,173 Italian prisoners of war aboard Petrella, 2,670 were killed." as sentences shouldn't start with numbers
  • Done. L293D (☎ • ✎) 15:10, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
• far east→Far East and link
  • Done. L293D (☎ • ✎) 15:10, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
• were atken
  • Fixed. L293D (☎ • ✎) 15:10, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
• "ordered to patrol the Aegean Sea"
  • Sigh.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 02:27, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
• 5809→5,809
  • Done.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 02:27, 13 January 2019 (UTC)--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 02:27, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
• "on 8 October forto the United States"
  • Yep.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 02:27, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
• suggest "the frigate HMCS Carlplace" per my other comment about ship types
  • Yes.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 02:27, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
• "then leftaving for Scapa Flow on 6 July"
  • Changed. L293D (☎ • ✎) 18:18, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
• 270 meters→270 metres
  • Done by Sturm. L293D (☎ • ✎) 15:10, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
• 700 meter→700 metre
  • Done by Sturm. L293D (☎ • ✎) 15:10, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
• fn 13 needs a citation
  • Done. L293D (☎ • ✎) 15:10, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
• fn 15 what makes harwichanddovercourt.co reliable?
  • Removed. L293D (☎ • ✎) 15:10, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
• fn 16 is a bare url, needs a proper citation
  • Done. L293D (☎ • ✎) 15:10, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
• the listed Refs are all reliable
• File:French submarine Sibylle.jpg the source link doesn't link to this pic or establish that Crown copyright applies
• the NFUR for File:SPORTSMAN badge-1-.jpg is a bit marginal IMHO, I wouldn't expect it to survive Milhist ACR or FAC, but I'll let it slip through at GAN
• I'm AGFing File:British S-class submarine schematic drawing.jpg that it is Admiralty work, but you might need to research that
• We need to know when File:Petrella (French Line Archives).jpg was published to use that licence, it also needs a US PD tag
• File:HMS Sportsman in 1948.jpg doesn't have anything at the link to confirm it was taken by the UK Government

That's me done. Placing on hold for the above to be addressed. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 05:55, 12 January 2019 (UTC)

• • Cleared out most of the pictures.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 02:27, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
    • All done, I think.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 21:27, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
      • Yup, all done. L293D (☎ • ✎) 00:05, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
        • I won’t be able to get onto this for a couple of day, as I’m away from a computer. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 00:32, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
          • Holding breath until turns blue!--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 18:23, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
            • Yes, well I try to be prompt... This article is well-written, verifiable using reliable sources, covers the subject well, is neutral and stable, contains no plagiarism, and is illustrated by appropriately licensed images with appropriate captions. Passing. Nice work! Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 07:37, 18 January 2019 (UTC)