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Reviewer: Sturmvogel 66 (talk · contribs) 23:01, 16 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]


I'll get to this shortly.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 23:01, 16 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • This is in pretty good shape.
  • Image appropriately licensed. Are there any other PD photos available? Or a plan?
    • Unfortunately not. There seems to be a paucity of images of this class.
  • In the infobox, the ship's name is Sardonyx; The HMS is a prefix and doesn't belong in that field
    • Fixed.
  • Suggestion only; in the interest of shortening the infobox, delete manufacturers like Brown-Curtiss when the name links only to the company like Parsons. Yarrow boiler is a counter-example since that links to that company's boiler designs.
    • I understand what you mean. Maybe we need an article on the Curtis turbine.
      • We do, but I don't know enough about them to make an attempt
  • Abbreviate anti-aircraft gun and pounder in the infobox and delete nicknames like pom-pom
    • Done.
  • provide both Imperial and metric unit conversions for the two pounder in the infobox and in the main body
    • Done.
  • Link in the infobox and the main body, long ton and deep load on first appearance
    • Done. However, I note that neither have their own page.
      • That's fine
  • link in the main body: centreline, director, light vessel, midship
    • Done. Similarly, midships is a redirect to a definition in a glossary page.
      • Also good
  • Do you know how many depth charge racks were fitted initially? Any how many depth charges could she carry? Similarly how many could she carry after her conversion to an escort destroyer?
    • Unfortunately the data does not seem to be in the sources. I have added all I have.
      • I figured as much
  • Do you have any info on her movements in and out of reserve during the inter-war years?
    • Unfortunately no more than we have here.
      • I thought as much
  • Details for her WW2 service only seem to hit the highlights. Can you tell the reader what she was doing in between them more explicitly? And when she was under refit or repair?
    • From what I can tell, during WW2 Sardonyx was simply a convoy escort. The sources I have give very little systematic data so it feels more like gleaning.
      • The new edition of Rohwer has quarterly lists of which ships are assigned to which escort groups which could help fill out her service, not that that does you much good right now. Convoyweb has a lot more convoys which the ship escorted. Go the the Hague Convoy Database page and then search for the ship's name. I'd suggest summarizing them; the website lists convoy destinations and dates so you can group them together and roughly track the ship's movements.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 04:02, 25 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
        • Thank you. I found the 2005 edition of Rohwer online[[1]] which has proved helpful. I have also searched through Convoyweb and it seems that the destroyer escorted 62 convoys, but most for no more than a day or two either at the beginning or end of their journeys (depending on whether they were outbound or inbound). I have rewritten the section with summaries of the convoys for each year and selected details on those that seemed more interesting. I hope that is adequate. simongraham (talk) 21:11, 26 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • There's an updated edition of Rohwer available that I'd recommend and a brand new edition of Colledge as well.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 09:44, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    • Thank you. The copy of Rohwer I use is online, but my copy of Colledge is not. I will see if I can get hold of the newer versions.
  • Spot checks made, no issues.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 09:46, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]