Talk:HMS Misoa (F117)

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Post-war career?

Can anyone please provide information about what happened with this ship after it was decommissioned? In a newspaper article from 1954, a Lake tanker named SS Misoa is mentioned as being mothballed in Jacksonville after the last of this type was retired. Maybe is this same ship, re-converted to its original design? Thanks & regards, DPdH (talk) 15:50, 18 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Forward 40mm gun mounting

Article states that ship was completed with single 40mm, which for the date would certainly be a Vickers weapon as per the link in the infobox. However, it's stated that this was replaced with a twin mounting prior to D-Day deployment. As only 50+ twin Vickers 2-pdr mountings were ever produced and none used by the RN (according to various sources including Campbell), then it seems most likely that the ship was refitted with a twin Bofors mounting, which was a common weapon by that time.

On the other hand, this was an old ship and the RN was just as inclined to issue single Bofors guns to its lesser warships, even large escorts like sloops. Do we have any more detailed information on whether this installation was a Bofors, or whether in fact another single 2-pdr Vickers was added forward (as numerous Landing Craft, Flak deployed at Normandy were indeed fitted with four or more single MkVIII mounts, making this seem the more probable application if another Vickers barrel was used)? 2A00:23C7:3119:AD01:ED61:5F55:F60F:A881 (talk) 00:58, 16 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Further -

Image: https://www.combinedops.com/COM_PHOTOS/HMS%20Bachequera.jpg clearly shows a manually-operated 2-pdr on MkVIII single mounting (as distinct from the older LV MkII gun due to both mounting type and the obvious pronounced flash hider at the muzzle). The MkVIII was still very much a front line piece of equipment in June 1944 - the old MkII was issued only to much lower-rank or second-line units. This seems to lend further weight to the idea that another of these mounts could have been added alongside it?

Following image on WP article about 2pdr pom pom (https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/QF_2-pounder_naval_gun#/media/File:QF2_MkVIII_CWM_2.jpg) shows the single mount which Bachequera, sister of Misoa, was shown carrying in earlier photo. Next to it is a twin Bofors as used by RAN (Commonwealth model mounting), quite distinct from US type mount. Although former coxswain in his account say "twin version" when discussing single "pom-pom" being "replaced" (his words), again is it possible that this twin Bofors type was the weapon used? To an ordinary wartime seaman, a 'pom-pom' was just as likely to be any repeating weapon of 40mm calibre or similar (Canadians, for example, seem to have occasionally referred to 57mm Molins guns as pom-poms on occasion in their recollections and the Rolls gun was sometimes erroneously called a pom-pom in some first-hand accounts that I've read, so it seems to have been a bit of a generic term among Commonwealth sailors during WW2).2A00:23C7:3119:AD01:ED61:5F55:F60F:A881 (talk) 01:09, 16 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]