Talk:HMPV outbreak in Northeast Asia (2024–present)

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Proposal to Update Article Title

@Kencf0618, @Stranger43286, @NorthernStares, @DRWiki1102, @Opnicarter, @I like MG, @Bakhos2010, @Sunuraju, @TouchedWithFire you have been mentioned because of your significant contributions to this article.

I propose renaming the article to reflect the confirmed HMPV cases in India. Since the virus has now spread beyond Northeast Asia, the current title, "HMPV outbreak in Northeast Asia (2024–present)," no longer accurately represents the outbreak's geographical scope.

For instance, "Global HMPV outbreak" could be more inclusive and better reflect the article's evolving content. ― ᱚᱨᱤᱡᱤᱛ ^✉ 14:17, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Rename: Malaysia and India are not part of Northeast Asia, so it would be wise to revise the name accordingly. But the outbreak still has not been detected cases outside of Asia, so it maybe premature to label it as "global outbreak" already. (Although note that Central Asia and the Middle East are still unaffected). For now, "2024–present HMPV outbreak in Asia" seems appropriate. Simply yes "HMPV outbreak (2024–present) " also seems fine. No need to add location. I like MG (talk) 14:55, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with this DRWiki1102 (talk) 17:52, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

As an update, it has been reported in Central Asia (Kazakhstan) DRWiki1102 (talk) 03:25, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Rename: Probably should get ahead of the game and entitle it "HMPC outbreak 2024-present". In my estimation it hasn't reached Timeline level yet. If and when it dangerously mutates and/or becomes a PHEIC that's another story. kencf0618 (talk) 14:56, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Rename to a name that fit well! RealStranger43286 (talk) 15:05, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

HMPV epidemic (2024–prsent) seems a fitting title. RealStranger43286 (talk) 15:07, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Rename: I really agree with your suggestion. The title Has to be changed. I think that Global HMPV outbreak or 2024 HMPV Outbreak is more inclusive and better reflects the article. As the virus is now a Global outbreak, it is not just currently in Northeast Asia. The article has to be renamed. Opnicarter (talk) 15:08, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Rename – "HMPV outbreak (2024–present)" possibly sounds good to me Bakhos Let's talk! 15:25, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

~~Oppose~~ renaming under WP:MEDRS. The current state of the article is nothing like qualifying for a "global outbreak" based on sources acceptable at WP:MEDRS. Nothing in Europe in week 53 of 2024; WHO on 20 Dec 2024 says nothing; the US CDC says nothing. The epidemiology section starts with an unreliable source: WP:NEWSWEEK. Rumours spreading virally on the Internet that exaggerate the current state of reliable information should not be spread on Wikipedia. Boud (talk) 15:46, 6 January 2025 (UTC) (update Boud (talk) 15:53, 6 January 2025 (UTC))[reply]

Rename to HMPV epidemiology (2024–present). Evidence for an outbreak currently looks weak, e.g. Chinese health officials stated that the surge was consistent with overall seasonal trends. Maybe they're lying, but we would need a good source to support a claim that there is in fact an outbreak. However, it's clear that the epidemiology of HMPV is a valid topic, and can be merged back into Human metapneumovirus if the content is too little to justify continuing the split. Boud (talk) 15:53, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with your suggestion, but there currently is no evidence that this outbreak has spread out of Asia. Naming it to HMPV outbreak in Asia (2024-present) would be a better alternative currently. It definitely should be changed from Northeast Asia. DRWiki1102 (talk) 03:54, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Dubious

The statement about "every continent" is likely just sloppy wording by the author. The reviewers quite likely didn't bother complaining because it doesn't affect the main method/results of the paper. As I put in the tag, the references in the source (2, 12, 14, 26, 28, 30, 33, 40, 41, 43, 60, 71, 75, 85, 87, 89, 99, 104, 120) do not state Antarctica in their titles, and the few non-geographical titles mostly refer to children, but there are likely few children in Antarctica. Without a source for saying that HMPV was detected in Antarctica, the words "identified on every continent" should be removed. Even if the words were true, they wouldn't add significant information: if the distribution is worldwide, then it can reasonably be interpreted that it has been identified on all the continents with more people than just a few handfuls of visiting scientists. Boud (talk) 15:34, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

i agree with you, perhaps its wise to change it into just hMPV had a worldwide distribution. NorthernStares (talk) 15:48, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]