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GA Review

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Reviewer: Winner 42 (talk · contribs) 20:37, 4 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]


Beginning review, looks solid at a glance, will be done in a day or two. Winner 42 Talk to me! 20:37, 4 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Just noticed that you have addressed some of these things while I was reviewing, I apologize for being too lazy to go back and check what you have fixed. Winner 42 Talk to me! 22:11, 4 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

  1. Is it reasonably well written?
    A. Prose is "clear and concise", without copyvios, or spelling and grammar errors:
    B. MoS compliance for lead, layout, words to watch, fiction, and lists:
  2. Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
    A. Has an appropriate reference section:
    B. Cites reliable sources, where necessary:
    C. No original research:
  3. Is it broad in its coverage?
    A. Major aspects:
    B. Focused (see summary style):
  4. Is it neutral?
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. Is it stable?
    No edit wars, etc:
  6. Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
    A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid fair use rationales are provided for non-free content:
    B. Images are provided if possible and are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:
  7. Overall:
    Pass or Fail:


Overall Comments

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  • There are currently nine dead links in the article
  • This article seems to be largely comprised of positive reviews, some negative ones should be added to provide due weight to those critics
  • You need commas after introductory clauses with dates
  • More images would be nice if possible, but I won't fail this if no more are available.

Sectional Analysis

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  • Lead
    • The section seems not to summarize the points made in the article per WP:MOSLEAD and instead is largely positive quotes
    • now established -> now is established
  • Band
    • Does this need its own section or could it be merged with career?
    • The other people in the band will need to be sourced besides Dave Price
  • Early life and education
    • The second sentence is not in chronological order
    • Noticing a bit of WP:CITEKILL here with ref 8
  • Professional career
    • Poland doesn't need a link
    • "who was shortly to judge" Poor wording/grammar
    • "This comprised mainly standards" Poor wording or jargon, can't tell what this is supposed to mean
  • Other work
    • These subsections don't seem to flow well, consider paragraphs?
    • Some of these seem to only be sourced to primary sources, such as her appearance on Music Matters

Comments on review

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Thank you for completing this review so quickly and thoroughly, Winner 42 (talk). You've given me some useful pointers for improving the article.

I've addressed most of your concerns. Specifically:

  • I've sourced new references to replace most of the dead links. In a couple of cases I've simply deleted the dead link to avoid over-citation.
  • I've edited the lead para, although it probably still needs further work
  • I've combined the quotes about Herbert's singing style with the text on the band (which I've now referenced). I've put them into a new section called "Performance"
  • I've addressed the other concerns in your sectional analysis.

I think it will be challenging to find some negative quotes about her performance. The only negative quotes I can recall seeing refer to her musical The A-Z of Mrs P, which received mixed reviews from the critics. Almost all this criticism was directed at the play rather than the music itself.

I took the picture that accompanies the article, as I couldn't find any elsewhere. It was the only one I took that is of publishable quality.

Best wishes. Headhitter (talk) 09:14, 5 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ok it looks good now. I'll go ahead and pass it. Congrats! Winner 42 Talk to me! 16:36, 5 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]