Talk:Gunnilbo socken

Article sections

It is a bit unclear how each of the following sections relate to the parish. For instance, were there both vicars and chaplains of the church?

List of Kyrkoherdar (Vicars)

Andreas Georgii Troninus, 2nd vicar of Gunnilbo

#	Name	Lifetime	Vicarage	Notes
1	Petrus Henrici Barchæus	ca1580-1654	1638-1654	grandson of vicar Henricus Andreæ Norlandus in Söderbärke (W)
2	Andreas Georgii Troninus	ca1616-1655	1654-1655	married Brita Persdotter Silnæa, widowed (see #3)
3	Henricus Petri Barchæus	1622-1695	1655-1695	son of #1, married widow of #2
4	Johannes Laurentii Barchelius	1648-1698	1695–1698	married Susanna Barchæus (daughter of #3)
5	Laurentius Elfwius	1667-1700	1698–1700	son of Laurentius Petri Elfvius, vicar in Orsa (W)
6	Johannes Kumblin	1661-1725	1700–1725	married Susanna Barchæus (widow of #4)
7	Isac Arosell	1686-1730	1725–1730	married Margareta Barchelius (daughter of #4)
8	Olof Hellenius	1685-1731	1730–1731	married Margareta Barchelius (widow of #7)
9	Eric Kumblin	1702-1760	1732–1760	son of #6
10	Abraham Schultzberg	1719-1802	1760–1786	married Maria Kumblin (daughter of #9), later vicar of Skinnskatteberg (U)
11	Jacob Rhamnelius	1733-1788	1786–1788
12	Johan Petter Arlberg	1749-1820	1789–1820
13	Anders Norberg	1770-1840	1821-1840
13	Daniel Löfwenius	1792-1843	1840-1843

List of Comministrar (Chaplains)

#	Name	Lifetime	Chaplainage	Notes
1	Petrus Gangius	1630-1692	1665-1677	became vicar of Haraker (U)
2	Johannes Laurentii Barchelius	1648-1698	1677-1695	vicar of this parish after
3	Johannes Kumblin	1661-1725	1695-1700	vicar of this parish after
4	Petrus Matthiae Weström	1677-1746	1700-1746	m. Anna Forselius, daughter of vicar of Haraker
5	Johan Arhusius	1711-1756	1747-1756	m. Anna Christ. Fellenius, daughter of vicar of Ljusnarsberg
6	Jonas Bergnell	1719-1770	1756-1790	m. Anna Christ. Fellenius, widow of #6
7	Jacob Rhamnelius	1733-1788	1771-1790	m. Maria Christ. Hellbom, daughter of vicar of Våla (U)
8	Olof Eckman	1750-1819	1785-1806	became vicar of Nås (U)
9	Lars Sundberg	1763-1808	1806-1808	m. Eva Brita Godenius, daughter of vicar of Gagnef (W)
10	Anders Norberg	1770-1840	1809-1812	vicar of this parish after
11	Anders Samuel Schultz	1778-1842	1812-1826	became vicar of Hed (U)
12	Johan Thorell	1785-1842	1827-1829	chaplain in Söderbärke (W) after
13	Pehr Olof Liedström	1800-????	1843-?????

What is the list of villages? How does it relate to this specific article?

If it's meant to be a list of nearby villages, it should likely focus on the ones that are closest to the village.

Villages (Ortnamn)
Östra Gunnilbo (Österbo) Väster Gunnilbo Kedjebo (Lorentstorp) Kedjebohammar Heden Kneppmora Lilla Färna Färna bruk Bockhammars bruk Flena Bjurfors Hemmingsbo Bastmora torp Tarmansbo Sarftjärn Naddbo (Bussbyn) Ersbo Erlandsbo Asplund Landfors Västansjö Killinghammar Prästhammar Gillbo

There are no sources for this information - and there isn't corresponding information in the Swedish article about the parish or the church for any of this information.--CaroleHenson (talk) 12:22, 24 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The page author did supply the following two sources:

Westerås Stifts Herdaminne by Joh. Fr. Muncktell
Bruno Holmbergs anteckningar om hyttor och hammare.

The first is a reproduction of a 19th-century book and the articles the same editor created on the various vicars all refer to it in plain text, so it is presumably where their biographies and dates of incumbency are taken from. The second may be the source of the list of villages (hamlets may be more accurate). Yngvadottir (talk) 15:08, 24 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yngvadottir, Excellent, thanks! I've put back the vicars and chaplains.

Is the list of villages meant to be a list of nearby villages? Are some of these considered to be villages within Gunnilbo (like Farna)?

It seems like a long list to be within Gunnilbo - except Farna. What villages should be included and what is the context. Thanks so much for shedding light on this!!!!--18:15, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

I did some searching in sv.wikipedia, which I believe substantiates my hunch: sv:Kedjebo and sv:Killinghammar both say they are hammarområde, which I'm going to make a guess is an iron foundry location. Hyttor in the source title refers, I believe, to an extraction location. So these were mining/ore processing settlements, or perhaps in some instances permanent settlements, but very small - hamlets rather than villages. The names of the first two simply mean East and West Gunnilbo. A rural parish encompassing a number of very small settlements, some of which may no longer exist. However, I hope the editor himself will respond after seeing your note on his talk page, and I'm pinging Bishonen for a check of my tentative translations. Yngvadottir (talk) 19:52, 24 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Excellent detective work! I think that makes 1) Östra Gunnilbo (Österbo), 2) Väster Gunnilbo, 3) Lilla Färna, 4) Färna bruk and 5) Bockhammars bruk all mining sites based upon your insight and info from a source for the article. It's also much appreciated your reaching out for assistance with translation! It's very helpful!--CaroleHenson (talk) 20:00, 24 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Gunnilbo River

There is some interesting information in this pdf file about the Gunnilbo River, its having been dammed for mining enterprises and its current state. I assume that this is the tributary that slips in behind the Gunnilbo Church from the Farna area, but I couldn't find anything conclusive to verify its location.

Does anyone know the location of the Gunnilbo River?--CaroleHenson (talk) 21:18, 24 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Search for the Swedish name "Gunnilboån". How about this map at openstreetmap? One can also make it out on the Google Maps satellite images. Where one can't see the somewhat meandering dark line of the water, there is a line of trees that seem to stand along the river. --Hegvald (talk) 22:38, 24 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Excellent, thanks! That's where I thought it was, great to have the confirmation.--CaroleHenson (talk) 23:38, 24 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]