Talk:Gukesh Dommaraju

2nd- youngest GM or 3rd-youngest?

This article says both that Gukesh is the third-youngest GM of all time, and the second-youngest. Which is it? Chillowack (talk) 01:23, 15 December 2022 (UTC)

(2nd) Youngest player to beat Magnus Carlsen

Pranav Venkatesh (16 years, 138 days old) beat Magnus in blitz during yesterday’s Titled Tuesday, beating Gujesh’s record by two days. 2600:1000:B103:1F56:DD88:D3AA:B16F:8F64 (talk) 02:12, 2 March 2023 (UTC)

2020 and 2021

The article says: "He is India's youngest (GM) as of 2022." However he became 2nd youngest GM in history already in 2019, with Karjakin being the youngest. So how about 2020 and 2021??? Bob.v.R (talk) 13:49, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

Age records

Gukesh was the 2nd youngest GM ever back in 2019, now he's 3rd (after Karjakin & the newest record holder Abhimanyu Mishra (see R_Praggnanandhaa#Chess_career). Also facts are that Gukesh is the 3rd youngest player in history to both qualify to & play in a candidates tournament (Fischer youngest to play in one, Carlsen the youngest to qualify. Just don't know any handy sources to state these.

I don't know who's the youngest Indian GM at the moment. But I don't know if that kind of information is important. --J. Sketter (talk) 18:38, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

3rd youngest Candidate

Fischer and Carlsen both qualified for the Candidates at a younger age, and played at a younger age. A number of press sources are saying Gukesh is the second youngest - ignoring Carlsen - but they are wrong. It can easily be verified than Carlsen was 16 during the World_Chess_Championship_2007#2007_Candidates_tournament. Adpete (talk) 02:30, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

• 1959 Candidates, began in September 1959; Bobby Fischer (b. 9 March 1943) was about 16 years, 6 months.
• 2007 Candidates, began on 26 May 2007; Magnus Carlsen (b. 30 Nov 1990) was just under 16 years, 6 months.

Adpete (talk) 08:20, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

Incorrect rating

According to FIDE, Gukesh's rating is 2763. However, it's being automatically populated as 2764, the third off-by-one I'm seeing today. Greenman (talk) 10:50, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Gukesh's Origins

An unsourced edit by User Voglam (https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/User_talk:Voglam) dating back to Dec 2023 states that Gukesh is of Chennai origin. Subsequently, after Gukesh started to gain attention in recent months, Indian websites have used information from the wiki page for articles, and those articles have been retroactively added as sources by the same user.

A few issues: These websites are not reliable primary sources, and some of them have copied the wiki word for word. Where is the primary source for this claim? Padfather (talk) 14:20, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

See this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEtjxbt4fZ8 Chess Grand Master Gukesh Dommaraju Visited Tirumala Srivari Temple || Every one gains something subsequently only. Voglam (talk) 14:28, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

Indian's often have a grasp of multiple languages.

Where is the source for your initial edit dating back to December last year? Padfather (talk) 14:39, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

Did he deny that he is not Telugu. Dommaraju is a Telugu surname from the Godavari districts. Every article has to begin somewhere. If you have a personal problem, add a comment asking for further references, don't blatantly override articles with your SockPuppet account. You seem to be a SockPuppet. Your account was created only this month. Other Wiki Admins please intervene and handle this sockpuppet. Voglam (talk) 14:51, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

Referring you back to the guidelines for BLP articles: Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately from the article and its talk page. Padfather (talk) 14:54, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

Many articles online mention that he is Telugu. What you said holds for you also. Telugu news articles have long published his Telugu heritage since before Dec 2023 also. Voglam (talk) 14:57, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

You did not provide these proofs you are referring to as citations within the article. Again, please refer back to the guidelines on what constitutes a reliable source. You can call me a sockpuppet if you think that helps your case, but admins will be able to verify that this is not true. Padfather (talk) 15:50, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

You have used the Hindustan Times reference for sourcing Chennai but you seem to have a problem with him being Telugu which the same article that you refer also mentions. Voglam (talk) 16:32, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

You attribute that sourcing to me, which is clearly false, that is besides the fact that his birthplace is clearly verifiable, and if noticed, a valid source can be added. The "Origin of his family in the Godavari District" is neither verified, nor relevant to the topic.

Editing pages is an incremental process, and we must make sure all sources must be reliable. The article whose text has been copied verbatim from your own wiki edits, is not a reliable source. Resorting to whataboutism is not a valid argument,

I see that you have reverted the page anyway, despite receiving a warning from an admin. Unfortunately, this conversation does not seem to be very productive. Padfather (talk) 18:31, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

He is a telugu .his surname dommaraju bekongs to telugu raja kshatriya community if i am not wrong .he is telugu that is his mother tongue .some tamils are claiming he is pf tamil origin but it is clear that he is telugu. Please lets all look at reliable evidence and lets not make a fuzz about it. Thanks. 49.204.0.59 (talk) 12:04, 13 December 2024 (UTC)

Deletion of old material without counter reference denying that he is Telugu is not justified. That edit you are mentioning has been done very long before he gained attention that is worrisome to User Padfather. Dommarajus are Telugu families Sir. Voglam (talk) 14:36, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

WP:BURDEN - The burden to demonstrate verifiability lies with the editor who adds or restores material, and it is satisfied by providing an inline citation to a reliable source that directly supports the contribution.

No sources you have provided have him or his family stating their origins. Padfather (talk) 14:53, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

Did not they mention he is Telugu. You seem to have a problem. Why are you sockpuppeting? Voglam (talk) 14:59, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

Voglam, why didn't you add the source for this claim that you made on 16 December 2023? Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 18:52, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

You are removing old material and the well known sourced fact that he is Telugu. I have not removed any sourced material. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Voglam (talk • contribs) 15:04, 6 Oct 2024 (UTC)

Various reliable sources mention that Gukesh is of Telugu origin. I don't see any issue why that shouldn't be mentioned. Dommaraju is, as evident, a Telugu surname. L5boat (talk) 07:43, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

L5boat, do you have an indepedent reliable source that was published before 16 December 2023? Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 07:47, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

Why should the date matter? At the time, he wasn't as famous as he is now. So, there would naturally be far fewer articles on him then compared to now. L5boat (talk) 07:52, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

On 16 December 2023, User:Voglam added a claim "to a Telugu family fhailing from Godavari delta of Andhra Pradesh" without a source. The content was then republished by news media outlets without proper due diligence, which, on Wikipedia, is referred as WP:CIRCULAR / WP:CITOGEN.

The policy states that Do not use articles from Wikipedia (whether English Wikipedia or Wikipedias in other languages) as sources, since Wikipedia is a user-generated source.

In this case, the Hindustan Times article copied the Wikipedia article verbatim: The teen sensation was born on May 29 2006 in Chennai, Tamil Nadu. He is from a Telugu-speaking family, who hail from the Godavari delta region of Andhra Pradesh. Dr Rajnikanth, his father, is an ear, nose and throat surgeon. Meanwhile his mother, Padma, is a microbiologist. He is currently studying at the Velammal Vidyalaya School in Chennai and began to play chess reportedly when he was seven-years-old. The giveaway among other phrases, is the phrase "ear, nose, and throat surgeon" which could have easily been written as ENT. To add, the mother's name, Padma should have been Padmakumari, as is available in other older sources.

Unless you have a indepedent reliable source that was published before 16 December 2023, the early life section should remain as it was before that date. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 08:08, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

I'm not so sure this is obviously citogenesis/circular. Also, Gukesh speaks Telugu and has a Telugu name, so it would be very surprising if the claim wasn't true.

I googled and found an article published in July 20, 2021 by Global Indian, which does verify the claim: Born in 2006 in Chennai to a Telugu-speaking family, his father Rajnikanth is an ENT surgeon and mother Padma a microbiologist. I have no idea what Global Indian is or if it is reliable. The text in the article is identical to the Wayback Machine in 2022 so the text of the article hasn't been edited after the fact. Endwise (talk) 12:37, 9 October 2024 (UTC)

The wiki article on Gukesh Dommaraju already had the exact information as of 30 June 2021. The inline citation provided only links to a table. Global Indian article has copied content from Wikipedia. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 17:09, 9 October 2024 (UTC)

There are various independent sources (Source 1, Source 2, Source 3) that mention he was born into a Telugu family settled in Chennai. Source 3 goes into details of their family background and features interviews from both his parents. The article clearly mentions that Gukesh's family are Telugus settled in Chennai. The above sources do not specify anything about his origin in Andhra or Godavari districts, but only note that he was born into a Telugu family settled in Chennai. This suggests that these sources have not directly copied information from Wikipedia.

Gukesh speaks Telugu, has a Telugu surname, and multiple reliable sources confirm that he is from a Telugu family settled in Chennai (independent of Wikipedia content). Based on the available information, the article should state that he was born into a Telugu family settled in Chennai, without referencing his place of origin, as that part seems to be contested. L5boat (talk) 08:00, 10 October 2024 (UTC)

The statement "Gukesh speaks Telugu, has a Telugu surname, and multiple reliable sources confirm that he is from a Telugu family settled in Chennai" is actually original research. No reliable source states that they are a Telugu family prior to the unsourced addition to the Wikipedia entry. Several news sources have incorrectly reported the subject's mother’s name, likely originating from misinformation on Wikipedia. Any article mentioning the mother’s name as 'Padma' seems to have copied this directly from Wikipedia. But, if you check the Rediff article, published around the same time as the other sources, correctly identifies his mother’s name and provides accurate information about Gukesh's background but makes no mention of Telugu or Andhra.

Note that I am not claiming your assertion is false, rather there are no reliable sources predating the misinformation to support it. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 11:33, 13 October 2024 (UTC)

Not everyone copies from Wikipedia, right? There are sources that don't rely on Wikipedia information but still state that he is of Telugu origin from an Andhra-settled family. How can you claim that these are also copied from Wikipedia? I mentioned the Sakshi article, which featured interviews with both his father and mother. Even that article clearly mention that they are a Telugu family settled in Chennai. Now, since they directly interviewed the parents, they could have obtained this information directly from them or their relatives, so it couldn't have been copied from Wikipedia.

You are asserting without evidence that every single one of them, 100%, copied the information from Wikipedia. This is a far-fetched claim without proof. As I have mentioned, at least some sources do mention his Telugu origins without any reference to Wikipedia information.

So, there are reliable sources that state Gukesh was born into a Telugu family settled in Chennai, without copying from Wikipedia. This should be mentioned in the article. L5boat (talk) 11:55, 13 October 2024 (UTC)

I have taken a read through of the Sakshi article you a referring to, which was published this year. Firstly, let us note the the pending concern - Where is the source for the edit made to Wikipedia in December 2023?

The article itself:

1. Presents Gukesh's mothers name as Padma, which is incorrect, and immediately puts into question the legitimacy of their research.

2. Says that his father is Telugu, and then expands on their professions. This is the same order in which the Wikipedia page was presented.

3. Makes no claims to the origins of their family. There is no mention of his mother's language or origins, or in what year the family supposedly settled in Chennai.

Unless he or his parents are directly quoted as stating their origins by a reliable source, be it in an existing or future article, the wiki page should remain as it is, without the unsourced edits. Padfather (talk) 12:23, 13 October 2024 (UTC)

Why should mother's origins be mentioned? When "family" is stated, it generally implies both parents unless specified otherwise. L5boat (talk) 12:45, 13 October 2024 (UTC)

Thetazero, read the above. There is enough evidence for circular reporting. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 19:36, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

Where, exactly? I do not see any counter to the arguments by L5boat.

Why would any media outlet that directly interviewed him or his parents need to rely on wikipedia?

Also, multiple media outlets provided that info. Even if in any of them the wordings are similar to wikipedia, it doesn't automatically mean reliance on wikipedia.

As for Padmakumari being shortened to Padma, it is very common practice to shorten Names n worldwide media - like William to Bill or Elizabeth to Liz. Does it make the media source itself unreliable? Thetazero (talk) 19:49, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

Here is another suggestion. Instead of dismissing the information completely, which I think would be unfair, why not add a tag like "better source needed" template or something like that? Thetazero (talk) 20:15, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

Indian news media is known to circulate reports and often copy-paste content without due diligence. That being said, the news media, in their latest articles, only added what was on Wikipedia, which was an unsourced claim made by Voglam on 16 December 2023.

Voglam’s response above clearly indicates that this is original research, as they did not respond when asked why they added an unsourced claim.

Regarding the name, it is not a common practice to shorten names in worldwide media. If you are unfamiliar with how journalism works, please avoid making statements like this. Articles typically mention the full name initially and then begin using the shortened name or surname.

• Also, multiple media outlets provided that info. Even if in any of them the wordings are similar to wikipedia, it doesn't automatically mean reliance on wikipedia. — It simply means they have paraphrased it from Wikipedia, which is why it reads the same and follows the same order. Please read WP:CIRCUALAR
• Why would any media outlet that directly interviewed him or his parents need to rely on wikipedia? — If they had actually done their due diligence, the name would have read Padmakumari instead of Padma, as seen in the Rediff article.

If you want to add information about his origins, please share a reliable source predating this misinformation to support it, i.e., a source published before 16 December 2023. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 20:23, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

1>Are you suggesting that all of Indian media is forever unreliable and only western sources are reliable?

"Indian media is known to ..." is more of a stereotyping statement rather than having any actual evidence for misinformation. I don't think wikipedia has any official policy to disregard everything coming from Indian media as unreliable.

2> How many people know about William Henry Gates and how many know of Bill Gates? The use of Bill Gates is much more common, even in mainstream media. And if some media outlet mentioned him as Bill instead of William, does that automatically discredit the outlet? Also, what makes Rediff more reliable than Sakshi?

3> Obviously, not all sources copied wikipedia "word for word". In fact, a non-English source cannot copy an English text word for word. Even in English, not all sources did that. And even a word for word copy of a single sentence can theoretically be a coincidence as they are trying to convey the same information.

4> Also, Volgam's point that Gukesh being not famous until recent years and hence there wouldn't be too much public info about him earlier is also a valid one. So to ask for sources before a certain point in time, unreasonably assuming that everything since then has been (and will be) copied from wikipedia, will automatically likely rule out most valid sources. So that's an unfair demand in my opinion.

Finally, I only wanted to make a point. I don't want to be in a perpetual edit war. So most likely, I will not edit this page any time soon. But please consider at least keeping the info with the template. For now, at least, the information seems fairly credible. Thetazero (talk) 21:54, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

Where did I say that Indian media is forever unreliable? How is it a stereotyping statement when I can prove it? Are you aware of WP:NEWSORGINDIA?

The Rediff article has new information about his personal life, while the other sources are simply repeating what’s already on Wikipedia, line by line.

Once again, please don’t make statements like "In fact, a non-English source cannot copy an English text word for word." - There are many instances of this happening and here is an example of the reverse happening on Draft:Coat of arms of Chihuahua, which got revdel'ed.

Please show some competency here. Just because Gukesh wasn’t popular before a certain point in time does NOT allow editors to add unsourced claims and have them republished in subsequent news articles. Although you have already violated 3RR by reverting, I am asking you to self-revert your last edit to the article until we reach a consensus here. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 04:55, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

While the Hindustan Times(questionable) article possibly might have indeed copied some parts of the wikipedia article(though not a certainty), because the word sequences are strikingly similar for a few consecutive sentences, but that article does not give any original info - like an interview or such. However, there are sources that do provide original information(like an interview) and still maintain that Gukesh comes from a Telugu family. Why should such information be disregarded when there is no evidence that they relied on wikipedia? Some of these sources were provided by L5boat.

By the way, in this article from 2019 Times of India(2019) Gukesh mentions his mother's name to be Padma (not Padmakumari).

The point I am trying to make is that just because one single HT article possibly copied from wikipedia, it does not in anyway prove that all other articles also copied that information since that point of time. Hence, the deletion of such information is not justified.

I have made my point, and might not be able to reply for some time. So I hope we reached consensus. Thetazero (talk) 15:11, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

It is certain that the WP:OR content was added to Wikipedia first, which is why it is not present in any news media published before the date it was added to the Wikipedia article. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 13:41, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

He was not that famous prior to that to have a large number of articles shedding light on his family background and ancestry. L5boat (talk) 14:45, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

Him not being famous before is not Wikipedia's problem. The sources are very clear, and people who have been using Wikipedia and are familiar with Indian news media outlets know very well that these are mirror articles published without a byline. The subject and their parents have not yet publicly mentioned that they are from Andhra. The information is only synthesized so far from the fact that they are Telugu speaking. Personally, I don’t want to engage further, as the only editors arguing here are those who feel entitled because Gukesh is from their motherland, rather than following Wikipedia’s policies. It’s useless to argue with people who can’t differentiate between original research and reliably published sources. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 15:26, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

You are making an assumption that 100% of the sources have copied the information from Wikipedia. That seems very far-fetched. L5boat (talk) 15:58, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

It is not far-fetched. All the news articles contain republished information, which is why they all have the same content and nothing new. 28 November 2023 does not mention "Godavari delta region". user:Voglam makes an unsourced addition on 16 December 2023 mentioning the Godavari delta of Andhra Pradesh. Subsequently, Hindustan Times mentions the same in their article. If Hindustan Times had taken the time to do their due diligence and checked the inline references for the Godavari delta of Andhra Pradesh claim, they would have known that the sources did not support the claim. Instead, they published it as is. The same applies to all the news articles published after 16 December 2023. Neither the subject nor their parents have ever mentioned this in any of the interviews they have given. (Noting here that the gist in interview-based news articles is often written by journalists and not directly provided by the subject, as seen in the Rediff interview.) Welcome to Indian news media. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 18:11, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

Again, you are repeating the same thing over and over. We’ve already discussed this. I previously mentioned the Sakshi article, which did not reference the Godavari delta at all. See, not everything is a copy. L5boat (talk) 05:10, 13 December 2024 (UTC)

The excerpt translates to, "He is a telugu who has settled in chennai", Nowhere does it say he was from Andhra or the Godavari delta region, yet you restored it. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 05:34, 13 December 2024 (UTC)

I did not mention Godavari Delta. Other sources reference Andhra, which is why I included it. The mention of the Godavari Delta seems to be the point of contention, which you allege was copied from Wikipedia. This is why I chose not to restore that part. L5boat (talk) 05:39, 13 December 2024 (UTC)

I think, akin to what L5 boat is saying, now that Gukesh is in the limelight, there is more information about his family coming into the light. This says: Varadaiahpalem: Gukesh is a Telugu family settled in Chennai. They have a rural background from Tirupati district. Gukesh's father Rajinikanth's hometown is Chenchuraju Kandra in Pichattur mandal near Satyavedu. He moved to Chennai to pursue his medical career, and his son was born there. Gukesh's grandfather Shankararaju has now settled in his hometown Chenchuraju Kandra. To be clear, Chenchuraju Kandra or చెంచురాజు కండ్ర yields nothing on Google but Varadaiahpalem does show a village.

Due to discrepancies about the original district of his parents, it can be omitted. DareshMohan (talk) 11:55, 13 December 2024 (UTC)

This is good. I did not add that Godavari delta part because, as Jeraxmoira mentioned, it seemed to be copied from Wikipedia and I was sceptical about it. The OP who added it might have thought that since Gukesh belongs to the Raju community, which is primarily concentrated in the Godavari districts, the same could be assumed for him too and added it.

Now we have more details. There are also some Rajus in Rayalaseema. I have checked other sources, and his family is from the Pileru-Satyavedu area in Chittoor district. This is the information I have been waiting for. The Godavari part can be ignored as it is clearly copied from Wikipedia. L5boat (talk) 12:10, 13 December 2024 (UTC)

I personally think we should not care about his caste as it is a social evil .we should have his identity as telugu. Classifying such great individuals on the name of caste just because some pf his caste members wamts to feel superior doesnt make any sense .caste system is a social evil which is banned under indian law. Gukesh doesnt follow his caste profession. Please ignore his caste and he is beyond this outdated caste concept. Thanks. Even gukesh don't want to get identified using his caste. This is said by gukesh himself .thanks. 49.204.0.59 (talk) 08:48, 14 December 2024 (UTC)

Not Youngest WC

Ruslan was younger in 2002. All mentions of youngest WC should be corrected. 142.166.125.133 (talk) 17:08, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

Stop lying and vandalising or you’ll be blocked. Ruslan was 20 when he became the WC. OCDD (talk) 17:23, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

Ruslan was 18 years, 3 months, and 12 days old. Gukesh is 18 years, 6 months, and 13 days.142.166.125.133 (talk) 17:26, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

I am not trying to vandalize. I will not edit a second time. Please check your history. 142.166.125.133 (talk) 17:36, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

Gukesh is the youngest undisputed champion. The article has been updated to reflect this. Pawnkingthree (talk) 16:44, 13 December 2024 (UTC)

I added a parenthetical explaining the title split situation. Hopefully it seems fair and doesn't sound like I'm trying to diminish Gukesh's win, I just think if the article says "youngest undisputed champion" there should be a mention in-article of why that phrasing. KenyonP (talk) 01:03, 14 December 2024 (UTC)

Why is everything grouped under Early Life?

All other sections seem to be grouped under 'early life'. I'm new to Wikipedia, and don't know how to add a drop down list. Could someone please rectify this/advise me on how to correct it? WikiwriterM (talk) 09:52, 13 December 2024 (UTC)

Question about hatnote (surname or given name)

I wondered why he was being referred to throughout as “Gukesh” if that’s his given name. Our article on Telugu names states that the format is "family name, given name", so the bio correctly uses “Gukesh” (the family name or surname). The confusing thing is that the hatnote says that his surname is Dommaraju. Shouldn’t that hatnote be changed? JamesMLane t c 18:25, 13 December 2024 (UTC)

My understanding is that Gukesh is his given name, Dommaraju is his surname, and so it would be written as Dommaraju Gukesh in Telugu. However, he prefers to be referred to by his given name Gukesh, hence its use in this article. Pawnkingthree (talk) 19:59, 13 December 2024 (UTC)

It is common for people in India to be more commonly referred to by their given name as opposed to their surname. For example, Vishy Anand is usually referred by his given name, Anand. It varies a lot, but seems to be the case here for Gukesh. 9ninety (talk) 05:06, 14 December 2024 (UTC)

I think (sorry, I cannot offer a citation) that we are in a situation similar to Madonna or Ichiro in which the name a person is popularly referred to by is different from their culture's convention. John85 (talk) 03:40, 14 December 2024 (UTC)

telugu people use both .they use name as first name but use surname as initial as D(here in the case of gukesh). It will be like D. Gukesh. So it is not a problem . 49.204.0.59 (talk) 08:43, 14 December 2024 (UTC)

In all of our articles, Telugus are referred to by their given name. So the current set up is fine I think. @DosaEnjoyer likely could be able to explain this better Helloisgone (talk) 05:04, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

Responses from Indian government officials etc

I removed

Furthermore, Tamil and Telugu partisans promptly claimed him as their own online.

Just because "partisans" seemed like a potentially-not-NPOV word that wasn't in the original reporting cited (https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/gukesh-dommaraju-tamilian-or-telugu-mk-stalin-chandrababu-naidu-tamil-or-telugu-mk-stalin-chandrababu-naidu-lead-battle-over-chess-champ-gukeshs-herit-7237651)

At the same time, it potentially seems like an important part of the reaction to the win; there's always the political aspect of "who can claim credit and feel pride for a GM's win". Though it might fit better in World Chess Championship 2024? or in a Early Life section (particularly if this is something Gukesh has talked about in interviews or something). KenyonP (talk) KenyonP (talk) 00:47, 14 December 2024 (UTC)

I've changed the wording. There was a wall-o'-text in Talk when I got here, and while this isn't Cold War level there are always political brownie points. kencf0618 (talk) 02:19, 14 December 2024 (UTC)

He is a telugu person born in chennai. In chennai, there are many telugu migrants .so it is clear he is telugu by his surname and also video circulating on X where he is speaking in pure telugu. No doubt he is telugu. Tamil Politicians said their government helped them .they didn't say he is a tamilian .it is some tamil folks on internet who are spreading that misinformation which must be ignored. Thanks. 49.204.0.59 (talk) 08:51, 14 December 2024 (UTC)

Agreed to this, there aren't any widespread official claims of Tamil politicians claiming him to be Tamil, morever this WP:RS/PS also describes him as a Telugu born in Chennai as in the early life section.

Gukesh Dommaraju, The Boy Who Foretold His Future Xoocit (talk) 21:58, 14 December 2024 (UTC)

I don't want to get into the weeds here but the bit about Tamil & Telegu politicians (and for that matter cricket franchises) was deleted without explanation numerous edits ago. I've reinserted and reworded it. If it's radioactive, touches a sore spot, whatever, make a case whoever you are. Thanks. kencf0618 (talk) 01:10, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

Dommaraju, surname or patronymic

Are there reliable sources that can confirm this problem? Kethyga (talk) 01:36, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

Yeah, “Dommaraju” is not a patronymic. Telugu names work as “(family name) (personal name)”. In this case, it is not a patronymic. This can be confirmed as his dad’s name is Rajnikanth. Someone should go edit out the “patronymic” ASAP. Helloisgone (talk) 05:01, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

So long as he's not confused with Dormammu, we're good. kencf0618 (talk) 01:44, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

Book on Gukesh

Hi, can somebody please add this book to his entry? I represent the publisher Elk and Ruby. https://www.amazon.com/dp/1916839398 Many thanks. IMR 2A0A:EF40:894:6501:1A1B:65AB:5C69:95A6 (talk) 11:40, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for your WP:COI declaration –that's how it's done! I'll check the bibliographies of recent Chess World Champions (and in particular for those of WACA alumni). And in any case, you've got the link here! kencf0618 (talk) 12:25, 15 December 2024 (UTC)