Talk:Guadalajara (disambiguation)
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Which page to be the disambig page?
[edit]- Guadalajara of Spain must be first because is the original. 20:25, 31 July 2006 User:81.38.151.136
- There is no policy on the order of disambiguation pages, and making arbitrary changes to give precedence to one subject or another is strongly discouraged. --ForbiddenWord 20:33, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
- If you are happier now, great for you, but when you learn a little about the spanish history you can understand the change i did. 11:03, 1 August 2006 User:81.38.151.136
- I have reverted your edit again back to the older version. There is no reason to reorder the two items on the list unless the disambiguation undergoes a fundamental rewrite. --ForbiddenWord 16:12, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
- Eres mejicano y te jode la realidad o qué te pasa??? 14:02, 3 August 2006 User:83.46.97.25
- I don't speak Spanish, I'm sorry. --ForbiddenWord 14:40, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
This article is wrong, when people search "Guadalajara" they have to go to the disambiguation, not to "Guadalajara (Mexico)". Probably you only know the city of Guadalajara in Mexico, but in Spain we have the original city of Guadalajara. Guadalajara in Mexico was founded by a spanish that born in the spanish Guadalajara, that is the reason of his name. I think that the entry "Guadalajara" have to go to a disambiguation, and in that disambiguation should be both Guadalajaras, but spanish Guadalajara must be first in the order because is of a time before. 20:10, 3 August 2006 User:83.46.97.25
- I understand what you mean now. I have reverted it to your version with the older city placed first on the list. --ForbiddenWord 15:37, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
- First of all, crass profanity like te jode la realidad has no place on Wikipedia. Secondly, I don't think historical precedence is a good criterion to use to determine the order of entries on dab pages, nor is it commonly used: take a look at Boston (disambiguation) and Rochester, for instance. WP:MOSDAB tells us to "place the most-common meaning(s) at the top." Guadalajara, Jalisco, has a population 25 times greater than that of Guadalajara, Spain. But, even assuming that the massive difference in the size of these two cities were not enough to earn the capital of Jalisco the number-one position on the list, a neutral alphabetical ordering of the countries would still favour Jalisco. So I'm going to alphabetise them. Bolivian Unicyclist 19:01, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
- Ok, that it's a good idea, ordering the countries by other parametres, not for the history. Then, i think it's better ordering it for his elevation in a growing order. Spanish Guadalajara is in 660m, and the mexican in 1550m. I don't understand why don't you assume the history? If you think that historical precedence no place on Wikipedia, you don't understand anything. Historical precedence is the reason of all: the political geography of countries, the kings in Europe, the tecnology, the culture... You now can speak spanish ]]for the historical precedence that spain conquest the Inca Empire for example. 12:33, 29 August 2006 User:83.55.5.243
- An earlier foundation date is not used as a criterion in cases of this kind. See Boston (disambiguation) (and note where Boston redirects to, Vancouver (disambiguation), Santa Fe, Concord, Augusta (disambiguation), etc. Bolivian Unicyclist 13:00, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
- Jajajajajaj, eres un resentido!!! que pena das tío 21:50, 29 August 2006 User:83.55.5.243
- An earlier foundation date is not used as a criterion in cases of this kind. See Boston (disambiguation) (and note where Boston redirects to, Vancouver (disambiguation), Santa Fe, Concord, Augusta (disambiguation), etc. Bolivian Unicyclist 13:00, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
- Ok, that it's a good idea, ordering the countries by other parametres, not for the history. Then, i think it's better ordering it for his elevation in a growing order. Spanish Guadalajara is in 660m, and the mexican in 1550m. I don't understand why don't you assume the history? If you think that historical precedence no place on Wikipedia, you don't understand anything. Historical precedence is the reason of all: the political geography of countries, the kings in Europe, the tecnology, the culture... You now can speak spanish ]]for the historical precedence that spain conquest the Inca Empire for example. 12:33, 29 August 2006 User:83.55.5.243
- First of all, crass profanity like te jode la realidad has no place on Wikipedia. Secondly, I don't think historical precedence is a good criterion to use to determine the order of entries on dab pages, nor is it commonly used: take a look at Boston (disambiguation) and Rochester, for instance. WP:MOSDAB tells us to "place the most-common meaning(s) at the top." Guadalajara, Jalisco, has a population 25 times greater than that of Guadalajara, Spain. But, even assuming that the massive difference in the size of these two cities were not enough to earn the capital of Jalisco the number-one position on the list, a neutral alphabetical ordering of the countries would still favour Jalisco. So I'm going to alphabetise them. Bolivian Unicyclist 19:01, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
- Haber quién se cansa antes. 13:03, 5 September 2006 User:84.76.196.181
- ¿"Haber"? Qué pena. 14:29, 5 September 2006 User:Bolivian Unicyclist
- Why are you kidding with it? 11:00, 21 September 2006 User:83.39.186.15
Which page to be the disambig page? (2)
[edit]- This article is wrong, when people search "Guadalajara" they have to go to the disambiguation, not to "Guadalajara (Mexico)". Probably you only know the city of Guadalajara in Mexico, but in Spain we have the original city of Guadalajara. Guadalajara in Mexico was founded by a spanish that born in the spanish Guadalajara, that is the reason of his name. I think that the entry "Guadalajara" have to go to a disambiguation, and in that disambiguation should be both Guadalajaras, but spanish Guadalajara must be first in the order because is of a time before. 21:14, 5 August 2006 User:83.46.97.25
This is ridicolous
[edit]- The only reason beacuse Guadalajara redirects to a disambiguation page is because some spaniard's agenda. Guadalajara, Jalisco is by far the most known city with that name in the world. I don't know why the change was allowed. 04:01, 8 September 2006 User:200.95.224.42
- I don't know where you live, but here in France nobody know Guadalajara Jalixco. 19:00, 25 September 2006 User:84.76.192.73
Aaaaargh!!
[edit]- Which pillock made this page and put a full stop at the end of the title? duuuh... 12:34, 16 July 2008 User:Java13690
Histmerge
[edit]- I have histmerged Guadalajara (disambiguation). to Guadalajara (disambiguation). See also Talk:Guadalajara (disambiguation)/edit war. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 09:13, 30 December 2008 (UTC)