Talk:Greyhound (film)
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[edit]"Josh Wiggins as Trailer #1" should be "Talker #1" 173.162.202.126 (talk)
The ship used for the filming was a Fletcher-class destroyer. That was not launched until June 1942, so the ship is a bit ahead of reality. 2601:41:4003:B7F0:0:0:0:7D7D (talk) 15:13, 21 August 2020 (UTC)Matt
Plot section too long
[edit]Should be edited down to half of the present length - too detailed for an encyclopedia - just the main points should be hit. 50.111.17.161 (talk) 09:44, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
Reliable Sources ...
[edit]Refrain from using blogs - these are forbidden for Wiki. As a new film, it may take time for the major players to post critically acceptable reviews of the movie - be patient until they do. 50.111.17.161 (talk) 14:02, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
corrections to plot
[edit]The ships in the convoy are freighters, tankers, and at least one troop ship. No "passenger" ships were included in naval convoys.
We are told in the scene with Krause's lady-friend that he's taking command of a Fletcher-class destroyer.
The Black Pit should be defined as the area beyond air support.
GREYHOUND is the code name of Krause's ship. As such, she's not called THE Greyhound, but simply GREYHOUND. Also, the code name should be capitalised per USN and RN procedure.
NEVER did Krause send an "SOS". That is a radio call for aid from any stations able to assist. Krause discussed with his XO just what message to send. They jointly agreed that sending "help" was short enough that the Germans might miss the message, and RN would understand.
Re distance "from Liverpool": the movie has text in scenes clearly stating the number of hours until air cover. NEVER is there mention that this is distance or time away from Liverpool. What matters is how long until Coastal Command bombers can aid the convoy. You must remember that the maximum convoy speed is the slowest ship; in a typical convoy, this would be about twelve knots. That means that the convoy will travel less than fifty nautical miles in four hours. Four hours or fifty miles away from Liverpool is not as far away as Holyhead in Wales!
Are the escort ships ever named in the film, apart from their code names? Unless I’m mistaken, those details in the plot summary are taken from the book and are not part of the film. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.59.214.15 (talk) 04:44, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
HMS James ("Harry") appears to be a J-Class Destroyer in the one shot at the end where her forward profile is visable. A Battle-Class Destroyer doesn't have the "shelf" between the first two turrets...
Concerns and questions about plot details
[edit]I am concerned the plot is not richly detailed enough surrounding the character of Krause. I’m assuming we’re operating along an informal firewall between The Good Shepherd’s summary’s focus on that character’s psychological problems and Greyhound’s summary’s focus on the action, am I correct? Jarrod Baniqued (talk) 18:41, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
Londonderry
[edit]The film refers to Londonderry, their seems to be an effort to wikiality by changing it to Derry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.104.108.86 (talk) 11:19, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
- See WP:DERRY. FDW777 (talk) 06:32, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
- In total fairness, the support of the Atlantic fleet, destroyers etc, was done from Londonderry Port, so a case could be made that's what's being referred to rather than the city. Canterbury Tail talk 12:11, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
- Additionally you failed to mention that after it’s called Londonderry it is subsequently called Derry. Canterbury Tail talk 21:20, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
- We should ignore bigotry on both sides and use the official name: Londonderry. Or use one with the alternative in brackets ie Derry (officially known as Londonderry) -- User:Kentish 14:17, 31 May 2022 (GMT +1) 194.72.70.107 (talk) 13:17, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
Incorrect ship descriptions
[edit]Disregarding what may be in the book (which should be marked as coming from the book), the movie audience is never given the actual names, classes, or designations of the other allied ships. We are only ever introduced to the other escorts through their callsigns.
Moreover, the Eagle is mislabeled in the article, which describes it as a "Polish Grom-class destroyer" when the movie clearly states twice that it is British. These screenshots from the film demonstrate this:
https://puu.sh/Ibfzl/7e0a3fa791.jpg (time: 09:10) https://puu.sh/IbQmI/9ae3ae007a.jpg (time: 59:29)
- Agree, and even the voice is clearly UK English. --Flightsoffancy (talk) 02:51, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
- It is supposed to be the British RN liaison officer on board the Polish warship. Not seen any useful reference to that though -- User:Kentish 14:15, 31 May 2022 (GMT +1) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.72.70.107 (talk)
ID of "US Rescue ship CADENA"?
[edit]Anyone have idea what ship it is? Looks like a corvette or frigate. --Flightsoffancy (talk) 02:51, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
incorrect link to Wikipedia article on different sailor with same name as the hero of this movie.
[edit]whoever linked to Ernest Krause, hero of the Spanish-American war, when writing this article, needs his Wiki editing privileges restricted. please, guys, check out the links first! 82.42.178.229 (talk) 01:59, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
Length
[edit]Sequel section is too short 2600:8807:800:6E00:4C79:ED18:CC8B:A601 (talk) 07:09, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
Add Accolade and Citation
[edit]Hello, could you please add the following award and citation? Thanks!
Best Movie for Mature Audiences (won)
https://movieguideawards.com/category/winners/ AB12349 (talk) 21:38, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
Corrections to Production section comparison to the book
[edit]I suggest the following rewrite in the first paragraph in the Productions section:
The film was relatively faithful to the novel, with a few exceptions. The characters and their names remain basically the same (e.g. Ernie Krause is George Krause), but in the book, Krause is more bitter about his life, as he was divorced from Evelyn. She cheated on him, but he recognizes that he had been part of the problem, as he put the Navy ahead of her. In the film, this aspect is omitted and instead an inclusion of a scene is added where Krause proposes to Evelyn to come with him to a beach, though he accepts her hesitant refusal as the war is going on. The character of Cleveland is based on a Filipino messmate in the novel who survives. Krause never breaks radio silence in the book; he decides to, but never does. The film has a scene where a U-boat uses Greyhound's transmitting frequency to broadcast taunting messages over the ship's loudspeakers, which is based on an incident in the book where the Germans are intruding on the inter-ship radio.
All references below to The Good Shepherd by C.S. Forester. Penguin Edition, published 2018. ISBN: 9780143134121
Krause never breaks radio silence. He decides to (p. 218) and what time to do it. The clocks are changed one hour forward to match the time zone (p. 228); "the moral effect was profound." Krause is then too busy with damage to two ships from the convoy to send any messages before the Admiralty message arrives (pp. 228–232).
Also in the book, Lieutenant Commander Rode of the James says over the TBS, "Jerry's been on this circuit more than once during the night. He has an English-speaking rating who chips in with rude remarks..." (p. 169) — Preceding unsigned comment added by BrandatDBC (talk • contribs) 18:21, 21 February 2025 (UTC)