Talk:Greyabbey

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Greba looks like what may be a phonetic rendering of a colloquial pronunciation of Greyabbey. Any refs for the use of Greba before the 1990s? 92.11.52.106 (talk) 17:42, 7 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Why are you asking this exact same question on the talk pages of a bunch of Northern Irish towns/villages? What significance does the 1990s have? JonChapple ^Talk 17:59, 7 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'm curious. I have a feeling that some, if not most all, of the Scots names have been made-up by the authors of the sources cited. This current Ulstèr-Scotch malarkey seems to have started in the 1990s. If references for those names can be found before the 1990s it would indicate that Scots-speakers might have actually used them, either in speech or writing. My friend Google can't find any references other than those provided in the articles. 92.11.52.106 (talk) 21:00, 7 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Doesn't matter as the infobox is for modern names. Pre-1990s means little especially as Ulster-Scots is by on large a spoken language as oppossed to a written one. The fact it is becoming more written means you'll find more sources now than a couple of decades ago. Mabuska ^(talk) 10:49, 8 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

There is a local song called the "Graba Lasses" and referrs to North Street in the Village as the "Hard Breed Ra" (Hard Bread Road) I first hear this song in the 1970s when my brother moved into the village, don't know how long it was in exactance before that but 1990s is way too late for the term "Graba" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.153.124.1 (talk) 18:56, 22 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the info, IP. A great story. :) — Jon C.^ॐ 08:21, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The ra in Hard Breed Ra probably refers to a raw i.e. a row of houses in the street. Nogger (talk) 18:11, 24 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It could do, but "raa" is usually used in Ulster-Scots to mean simply "road". See also "haa" for house. — Jon C.^ॐ 08:13, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Surely there's a semantic difference between a row and a road and a hall and a house? The au courant Ulster-Scots propensity for being as different to English (and occasionally Scots) as possible would explain the neoteric disposition for raa instead of road and haa instead of house, or hoose for that matter. 84.134.143.165 (talk) 19:57, 26 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

And presumably by using "neoteric" instead of "recent" you're seeking to be as different from English as possible, too? — Jon C.^ॐ 14:39, 27 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Further references

Tried to enter :" hyyp://www.discovernortherniteland.com/Gray-Abbey-Newtownards" but failed. Some refs gave P2875 others P14057 presumably for the photographs. How should this be done please? Osborne 17:32, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

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