Talk:Green Door

Born For Porn

The Green Door is also a famous 70s porn. The bar the Green Door in Park Hall Maryland, the local watering hole for St. Mary's College of Maryland is named after this porn.

Please sign your comments. You're thinking of Behind the Green Door, not just The Green Door. 23skidoo 14:54, 22 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Actually the porn movie was named after an unpublished short story of the same name, which makes reference to the 1956 song, the subject of this article. It goes full circle. Fothergill Volkensniff IV (talk) 17:07, 4 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've actually seen something claiming to be this story. In fact, it was posted on A.S.S.M. It was apparently originally known as "The Abduction of Gloria" and was re-titled to "Behind the Green Door" after the song showed up. Whether the story got the title before or after the song showed up is debated, but the story supposedly predates the song, and some definitely knew the story before the song. (the so called copyright i saw is 1940). It bears more than a passing resemblance to the plot of the film. Whether it is the rumored story story or a later invention cannot be proven without a copy of the manuscript, which was rumored to have been circulated around. Marilyn Chambers has gone on record as stating that that story is the basis for the film. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.164.155.94 (talk) 00:15, 15 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Inspiration behind the song

I've just removed the edit;

However, the song itself was written in the USA in 1956 and has no contemporary connection to any club in Britain. Instead it is a song about a latter-day 'speakeasy' of which 'Hernando's Hideaway' released in 1955 was another example. In the latter, the password "Joe sent me" was effective in gaining entry, whereas it failed dismally in 'Green Door'.Newington 15:05, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Which is unsourced, inaccurate (the gateway club opened in 1930)and wonders off the point with the Hernando's hideaway point. By all means add an alternative opinion on the source of inspiration for the song, just keep it neutral, source it,stay relevant and don't sign it!FelixFelix ^talk 17:04, 6 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think the previous editor Newington was basically correct. I've amended the article accordingly. The 'Hernando's Hideaway' reference is worth investigating. Jonathan Luckett 08:25, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm surprised no-one's written about the ultimate source of the story of the room with the green door: H. G. Wells' short story The Door in the Wall. Grassynoel 08:00, 1 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Guardian canard

I have removed:

The song has also been attributed to refer to the lesbian Gateways club (first opened in 1930), which had a green door and featured in the movie The Killing of Sister George.^[1]^[2] although this is disputed^[3].

^ Stephanie Theobold Great lesbian songs? Here's our top five The Guardian 6 March 2007
^ Brian Boyd The truth behind The Green Door The Guardian 8 September 2006
^ Mitch Mitchell "Doors of Perception" Film & Music letters: September 2006The Guardian 29 September 2006

... because The Guardian itself has avowed that this story is false, so there is no reason for us to maintain it. Interestingly, the author of the canard seems to have taken it from the Frankie Vaughan version, and then speculated as to which club in London the singer might have talked about, ignoring the fact that Vaughan was only doing a cover version of an originally US-American hit (and sidestepping the obvious question why a man should croon over a lesbian watering hole). Shambolic post-hoc reasoning in action. Maikel 06:35, 15 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This has since been reinstated. It has been rewritten to make it fairly clear that, although the story has been put about, it is probably false; I prefer this formulation. If we simply take all mention of the Gateways club out of the article, people will continually stumble on the Guardian's article and re-add this information, over and over again. As it stands, the article makes it clear that the theory is known and probably not credible. -Ashley Pomeroy (talk) 10:02, 17 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Allusion to marijuana

According to a radio interview with jim lowe the song is a reference to marijuana and it's use almost exclusively by musicicans in the 1950's. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.75.42.19 (talk) 00:09, April 25, 2008 (UTC)

Green Door

Green Door has lots of popular references and is very old, easily documented, from Charles Dickens to the dive bar in Maryland, although things such as "red/green/yellow/ door" have been around since probably into the Middle Ages (there is a "red door store" nearby me for example). Currently there is no place to write about these references or discuss the history, since this article is only about the song and musical derivatives. Fothergill Volkensniff IV (talk) 17:12, 4 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The fourth [Penny Parker] mystery by Mildred A. Wirt is titled "Behind the Green Door". No one gets admitted without a card and there is definitely something going on that room. That book was copyrighted 1940. Thanks for the information about the song. My parents had that record as a 45 single and I wondered if it inspired the title of the book. Jalen IV (talk) 15:19, 25 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Club 33 at Disneyland

Disneyland opened in 1955. This song came out in 1956. Are they related?

There is a famous green door at Disneyland. It is the entrance to the exclusive VIP restaurant/lounge known as Club 33.

It is nearly impossible to gain admission to this club, although many have dreamed of being able to open that green door. The lyrics of the song are quite accurate.

Does anybody know more about this connection?

--Kreline (talk) 04:38, 1 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think there is a connection. Disneyland's Club 33 is specifically colored to NOT stand out. and no one would have heard a thing. THe color is "No Se-Um Green" which hardly looks green at all, and incredibly unremarkable. 173.164.155.94 (talk) 00:07, 15 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Speakeasy or Union club?

I question the unsourced statement: "This club was private and it was limited to musicians union." I see no indication that the club is limited to union members, much less musician's union. It seems far more likely that the club is a fictional speakeasy, a private club open to known patrons, and that "happy crowd" is engaged in the convivial imbibing that was forbidden under Prohibition. This squares also with the reference to "Joe sent me," from Hernando's Hideaway.Finn Froding (talk) 15:57, 17 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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[1] Stephanie Theobold Great lesbian songs? Here's our top five The Guardian 6 March 2007

[2] Brian Boyd The truth behind The Green Door The Guardian 8 September 2006

[3] Mitch Mitchell "Doors of Perception" Film & Music letters: September 2006The Guardian 29 September 2006

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