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About Caragiale: The grandfather of Ion Luca Caragiale, Ştefan, Greek or Albanian come from the island of Idra, came to Walachia in the times of prince Caragea (http://www.geocities.com/romaniancoins/5000lei2002ilc.html ; also one of the sources for this article http://www.divers.ro/files/grecii.html). There are several of his writings where he alludes to this. The speculation and revisionism about him "being Aromanian" belongs to the Aromanian campaigner Farsarotul (and their buddies on wikipedia), and I am yet to see proof that Caragiale ever indicated that he believed he was that. Note that the claim of his fathers's lineage is argued to be Albanian (while http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:iQUIlOJx82YJ:www.insemnariiesene.umfiasi.ro/1%2520nr%25201_2004/pg%252046-47%2520holban.pdf+caragiale+grec&hl=ro&gl=ro&ct=clnk&cd=6 George Calinescu assures us "he consedered himself Idriote" - whatever that adds to Albanian vs. Greek, I don't know, but it certainly points out that he was not aware that he was "Aromanian"); that his mother was undeniably from a Greek family of Greek speakers, as pointed out by all sources, is common knowledge. His great-grandson described him as A Greek like all Greeks in this country Frankly, getting Caragiale, the major critic of nationalist cliches, to "join" into this "Green Romanians" game is pathetic.

Phanariotes were of Greek culture, and it is so hard to establish the modern-day rhetoric about what they "should be" that this is the best way to reference. Consider that the groundbraking point in estblishing ethnicity in the Balkans came in 1821-1830, and it involved the Phanar community picking sides as well.Dahn 01:24, 23 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The fact about "what Greece does and Romania doesn't" is purely inflammatory, so I removed it accordingly. Dahn 01:27, 23 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Greciĭ în Ţara-Românească

Google books has some scanned books, but they are only available for download to people in the United States. (that's because in the US all pre-1923 books are clearly PD, while in the rest of the world, they could be still copyrighted)

For people elsewhere, I uploaded on RapidShare this book on Greeks in Romania:

Constantin V. Obedeanu, Greciĭ în Ţara-Românească cu o privire generală asupra stăreĭ culturale până la 1717, I. V. Socecu, 1900

link (>1000 pages, 54 MB, click on the "Free" button and wait a minute or so) bogdan 20:56, 1 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, 1900 is the best period to look for accurate and neutral information... Dahn 21:49, 1 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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