Talk:Great Experiment

Great Experiment

This page confuses me:

It appears to be a disambiguation page but hasn't got a {{disambiguation}} tag.
None of the entries (except Canada: The Great Experiment) are dab-page compliant in that the target article or articles do not contain the phrase "Great Experiment".
And if it's not actually a dab page, it's entirely unsourced. That doesn't mean the entries aren't true, just that they're not sourced.
The Great Experiment goes somewhere else entirely: I've RfD'd it.

So what to do? My first reaction is to remove all but the Canada entry and add other mentions I can find in Wikipedia (eg baseball) but that doesn't feel quite right. Advice please! Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 08:36, 6 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I think it should be a dab page and include only entries that use the term Great Experiment, but not PTMs like The Great (whatever) Experiment. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 17:17, 6 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

What articles would be listed at a disambiguation page? I'm struggling to find any, and I don't think any of the current list would be suitable – Canada: The Great Experiment is closest but still falls foul of WP:PTM. (@Shhhnotsoloud: What would the relevant baseball article be? Major League Baseball mentions "The Noble Experiment" and List of first black Major League Baseball players cites a book called Baseball's Great Experiment, but neither of those is really enough.) It would be good to resolve this ASAP though, as the RfD for The Great Experiment might hinge on what happens with this. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 17:29, 6 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I only found a handful of book titles. The Canada one could stay, being that it is a subtitle. But given that Alexis de Tocqueville never really used the exact words "The Great Experiment", it leaves all the movements and nations stuff open to interpretation and falling into PTM world, which would go in the See also section for now. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 17:36, 6 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Should this be a set index article instead? other than those book and television entries, there's nothing that's conclusively calling themselves the great experiment, but it's almost always a PTM. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 17:46, 6 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for adding the books, exhibition, etc. I've removed all the links that were in the original sort-of-dab-page, none of which mention the term and none of which are commonly known by this name, and added {{disambig}}. Given the much smaller number of entries I've also removed the section headers and condensed the items into a single list. I think a dab page is the right solution here – there at least a few useful things we can list, and a set index wouldn't work as set indices are only (as far as I know) used for things which are related and actually share a common name, neither of which is the case here. What do you think? – Arms & Hearts (talk) 18:31, 6 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The page should be deleted. Nothing links to it, none of the outgoing links point to anything significant or that wouldn't be found with the search engine. There are no article titles currently on WP that need disambiguation. I would say it's useless, but in fact it's worse than useless because it's blocking searchers from easily finding the many other uses of the phrase in WP articles. - Station1 (talk) 18:44, 6 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Arms & Hearts:@AngusWOOF:@Station1:. Thanks all. I think I'll leave the page alone after A&H's edits (thank you), notwithstanding any editor's right to take it to AfD if they wish. I'll also comment on the RfD. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 08:50, 8 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]