Talk:Grammy Awards

Requested move 27 April 2021

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Moved as proposed. After much-extended time for discussion, there is a clear consensus for the proposed move. BD2412 T 01:52, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

• Grammy Award → Grammy Awards
• Latin Grammy Award → Latin Grammy Awards

– This should be consistent with the current pluralization of two of the other major American entertainment awards: Academy Awards and Tony Awards (the third one, the Emmys, is also currently under a similar RM). Both the regular Grammy and Latin Grammy articles are also about a collective group of awards usually referred to in the plural unless a single category is being referred to. Zzyzx11 (talk) 00:57, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

• Support per nom. It is pretty uncontroversial and should be moved a long time ago. 182.1.4.254 (talk) 00:11, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
• Support per nom. -- Necrothesp (talk) 11:52, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
• Support per nom. This move seems uncontroversial to me as well. Thank you to the nominator for a very well-done rationale as it helped me quite a bit, particularly the reference to other awards articles. Aoba47 (talk) 02:48, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Where to add the latest change in the nomination process, where 'secret committees' were dissolved?

This announcement has just been issued by The Recording Academy. I'm at a loss as to where add this or to not mention this at all Lord Clayton7 (talk) 03:37, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

Trademark Correction

The Recording Academy's trademark for their award is GRAMMY The plural is written GRAMMYs.

Using the spelling 'Grammy' is incorrect. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Greenshinobi (talk • contribs) 17:45, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

It seems every use of the term is incorrect across all GRAMMY-related pages. Is there a way to mass replace? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Greenshinobi (talk • contribs) 17:53, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

I had spent an hour and a half changing Grammy to GRAMMY, which is the Registered term according to the US Patent and Trademark Office. Spelling it as Grammy is a violation of Wikipedia Policy and US Federal Law. Some editor reverted all of my changes. No reason Given. I checked with the US Trademark office and four live marks exist, all listing the spelling explicitly as all cap GRAMMY, either as the stand alone term https://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4810:3dqqnr.2.25 or as the Award.

Both Wikipedia and the US Federal Statue support my edits. If someone wants to revert them there is ZERO defensible reason for doing so. Do we want to wait for a cease and desist order from the Recording Academy? Because permitting the incorrect use of a live Trademark will result in loss of the trademark if they DO NOT sue. So I'm all ears as to why we want to risk that. FFS. Greenshinobi (talk) 05:39, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

@Greenshinobi: The article follows the Wikipedia rules on trademarks, at Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Trademarks. If you think that rule should be changed for legal reasons, please discuss this at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Trademarks. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:35, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

The Wiki rules on Trademarks are not to use capitals if they're not used in all caps widely. In professional literature, GRAMMY is full capitalized. That is widely used. There is no way to untangle an argument of what is more widely used when all professional trades use caps. Again, I understand the Wikipedia Standards rule. I understood it on the first edit. Several of you have reverted my edit despite my changes being legally correct, correct according to the trademark owner, and correct according to the literature. These reversions are not based in any solid reasoning other than you reverted it once, I objected, and now you're doubling down on your incorrect edit. Greenshinobi (talk) 01:23, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

@Greenshinobi: Please discuss this at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Trademarks where the style experts will see it. You'll need to explain why the rule that applies to "Time, Kiss, Asus, Sony Mobile" does not apply to "Grammy".

I also reverted your edit because it left the article with broken links to other articles (1st Annual GRAMMY Awards, GRAMMY Award for Album of the Year and many others), it broke the image formatting in the infobox (File:GRAMMY Award 2002.jpg does not exist), and it modified three cited headlines where the word is used without allcaps formatting ([1], [2], [3]). -- John of Reading (talk) 06:57, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

Copyright problem removed

Prior content in this article duplicated one or more previously published sources. The material was copied from:

• http://customerservice.recordingacademy.com/support/solutions/articles/63000268321-grammy-official-awards-rules-guidelines
• https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/who-votes-for-the-grammys-how-academy-voting-process-nominations-winners-a8182621.html

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The Grammys on the Main Page

A discussion is currently taking place regarding the suitability of The Grammys for regular posting on the main page under the section "In the News." Interested editors are encouraged to join the discussion here. -Ad Orientem (talk) 19:09, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

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