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Dasmarinas versus das Marinas

It is very unlikely that Luis Pérez das Mariñas is the correct spelling of his name (as opposed to Luis Pérez Dasmariñas). The external link spells his surname without the space, and a Google search turns up about eight times as many hits that way than with the space. (And those with the space are mostly Wikipedia mirrors.) Also, there is a municipality in the Philippines named for him, and spelled without the space. Dos Mariñas would be more believable, but das is not a Spanish word, nor (as far as I know) a particle used in Spanish names.

The same arguments would apply to Gómez Pérez Dasmariñas.

--Rbraunwa 18:24, 8 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Disputed/Dubious: Weseley Merritt as Military Governor of the Philippines

This discussion impacts this article, the Wesley Merritt article, the Elwell Otis article and, almost certainly, other articles as well.

This article lists Wesley Merritt as the first Governor General of the Philippines. The Wesley Merritt article states, "[ Manila ] fell on August 13 and Merritt became the military governor of the Philippines." The Elwell Stephen Otis article says, "When he arrived, he assumed command of the VIII Corps, replacing Merritt who had become the military governor [...] ." I challenge the unsupported assertion that Merritt held the post of Governor General of the Philippines, and/or that he held the post of Military Governor of the Philippines, and I question the numbering in Wikipedia articles of the Governors General of the Philippines.

This article has Merritt serving as Governor General of the Philippines from August 14, 1898 to August 28, 1898. As of August 28, 1898, the Philippines was still under Spanish sovereignty, there was no American government in the Philippines, and the post of Military Governor, AFAICT, did not exist at that time. Even though a "Protocol of agreement between the United States and Spain, embodying the terms of a basis for the establishment of peace between the two countries" had been signed at Washington Aug. 12, 1898 (Halstead 1898, pp. 176-178). Deady 2005, p. 59 says, "As commanders, Otis and MacArthur headed both the army and the Office of the Military Governor.", not mentioning Merritt. McFerson 2002, p. 243 says, "... August 22: Merritt is replaced by Elwell S. Otis, who became the first Military Governor of the Philippines."

I have not looked further, but I imagine that additional sources supporting this refutation can be found. -- Boracay Bill (talk) 00:51, 19 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

References

Deady, Timothy K. (2005), "Lessons from a Successful Counterinsurgency: The Philippines, 1899–1902" (PDF), Parameters', 35 (1) {{citation}}: Unknown parameter |month= ignored (help).
Halstead, Murat (1898), The Story of the Philippines and Our New Possessions, Including the Ladrones, Hawaii, Cuba and Porto Rico.
McFerson, Hazel M. (2002), Mixed Blessing: The Impact of the American Colonial Experience on Politics and Society in the Philippines, Greenwood Publishing Group, ISBN 0313307911, ISBN 9780313307911.

I see that the article does cite a supporting source, World Statesmen - Philippines. I have conformed the info in the article to the info in that source and removed the {{dubious}} tag. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 02:50, 16 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Merge discussion

This article was recently split, forking off the List of American Governor-Generals of the Philippines article. I haven't seen any discussion aimed at building consensus for the split. I've placed merge tags in the two forks, and propose that the forks be re-merged here. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 00:32, 15 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I vote for one whole list with both the Spanish and American Governor-Generals in one article. Why split it? It was quicker with just one list. There should have been a discussion and a consensus before doing such big change. Please Bill, I think you should merge them and erase the extra list. Thanks. Briarfallen (talk) 01:09, 14 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yours is the only comment since I proposed the merge over a month ago. Per Wikipedia:Silence and consensus, consensus exists for the articles to be re-merged. I've re-merged the articles. There were no article-space links to the (now deleted) List of American Governors-General of the Philippines article, so I haven't left a redirect there.

Table vs. timeline disparities

I noticed some disparities between the governance dates in the tables and in the timelines

Name	Table dates	Timeline dates
Fernando Primo de Rivera 1st term	April 15, 1880 -- March 10, 1883	from:04/15/1880 till:03/10/1883
Emilio Molíns 1st term, acting	March 10, 1883 -- April 7, 1883	from:03/10/1883 till:04/07/1883
Joaquín Jovellar	April 7, 1883 -- April 1, 1885	from:04/07/1883 till:04/01/1885
Emilio Molíns 2nd term, acting	April 1, 1885 -- April 4, 1885	from:04/01/1885 till:04/04/1885
Emilio Terrero y Perinat	April 4, 1885 -- 1888
Antonio Molto acting	1888 -- 1888
Federico Lobaton acting	1888 -- 1888
Valeriano Wéyler	1888 -- 1891
Eulogio Despujol	1891 -- 1893
Federico Ochando acting	1893 -- 1893
Ramón Blanco	1893 -- December 13, 1896
Camilo Polavieja acting	December 13, 1896 -- April 15, 1897	from:12/13/1896 till:04/15/1897
José de Lachambre acting	April 15, 1897 -- April 23, 1897	from:04/15/1897 till:04/23/1897
Fernando Primo de Rivera 2nd term	April 23, 1897 -- April 11, 1898	from:04/23/1897 till:04/11/1898
Basilio Augustín	April 11, 1898 -- July 24, 1898	from:04/11/1898 till:08/13/1898
Fermín Jáudenes acting	July 24, 1898 -- August 13, 1898
Francisco Rizzo acting	August 13, 1898 -- September 1898
Diego de los Ríos	September 1898 -- June 3, 1899	from:08/13/1898 till:01/01/1899

I haven't attempted to reconcile these. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 20:39, 30 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Fixing 1898-1946

The 1898-1946 subsection shows as legends Japanese instead of Spanish, Japanese (Naval) instead of American (Military), and yellow for Japanese instead of black. I am correcting it now.

Also, if I may offer a suggestion: make sure to see if the timelines' legends were correct, please and thank you.

Scarlet Marines (talk) 01:57, 29 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Shōwa

This edit, which would have changed [[Hirohito|'''Emperor Shōwa''']] to [[Hirohito|'''Shōwa''']] in the Emporer column of the table in the Japanese military governors (1942–1945) section of the article caught my eye. I just changed that back to [[Hirohito]], as it was prior to this 2019 edit which changed that to [[Hirohito|'''Emperor Hirohito (Shōwa)''']] and introduced the term Shōwa to the article.

I am no expert, but I glean a bit of background info from the first few paragraphs of the Shōwa era and Heisei era articles. IMO, using Hirahito in that table cell (with a wikilink to the article with that name) best serves the interests of WP readers. Most of those readers are probably not likely to be so well schooled in Japanese customs that they will make the connection between the term Shōwa and the emperor of Japan during the time period relevant to this article. If you disagree, please discuss below. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 21:52, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]