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Point of view pornography was nominated for deletion. The discussion was closed on 17 February 2012 with a consensus to merge. Its contents were merged into Gonzo pornography. The original page is now a redirect to this page. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected article, please see its history; for its talk page, see here.

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This article was nominated for merging with Point of view pornography on April 30, 2011. The result of the discussion was Merge.

Old, settled discussion

Is there a connection to http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Point_of_view_pornography ? maybe we could consider linking these two articles Intagli (talk) 19:07, 21 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

dude, did you never watch porn? gonzo porn for the most part is, like said, just more graphical and without a lot of the old school conventions, while POV is really as if you see trough the eyes of one of the actors, but in Gonzo most of the times the camera is placed between legs eg., not a POV at all. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.79.152.84 (talk) 02:11, 9 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The articles in question were apparently merged a long while ago. Guy1890 (talk) 23:55, 14 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Image necessary?

Is the image really necessary? And isn't Wikipedia supposed to be for all ages? 83.54.232.237 (talk) 06:13, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It's important to keep in mind that Wikipedia is not censored. Having at least one image in an article, any Wikipedia article, is a good thing. Guy1890 (talk) 06:29, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This image is unnecessary and is derogatory Leelu2277 (talk) 11:29, 9 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Certainly it's useful to have an image to illustrate the POV nature of the genre. Equally it's useful to avoid genitals in the image if we can do so without compromising the value of the image to the article. There are many possible gonzo shots that would achieve this. Does anyone have a better image we could use? Polly Tunnel (talk) 13:15, 9 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

worldwide view

Except for a small section on POV porn in Japan, this article concerns itself exclusively with the US market. For instance:

It claims an American director started the genre
all awards are US based and involve American productions
not a single one of the notable directors is based outside the US (as far as I could tell, I can be wrong)

The article reads almost as if "gonzo" is unknown outside the US (with the aforementioned exception of mentioning that a POV style exists in Japan). Therefore this template. CapnZapp (talk) 18:04, 27 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Removing false claim that Gonzo is "one of two types of pornography"

I have removed the claim that: "there are two broad types of pornography, gonzo and feature" because it is a false categorisation of pornography, for 2 reasons:

1. Because "Gonzo" pornography is not opposed to "Feature" pornography: These are two separate styles of film-making that could easily be combined, ie a pornographer could make a "Gonzo Feature" movie which combines the first-person, Gonzo style with the scripted, Feature style. Therefore the article is wrong in saying that Gonzo and Feature are two broad and entirely mutually-opposed types of pornography.

and: 2. Because the overall category of "pornography" contains many distinct types, and not just two. This is easily seen by looking at the "categories" section of any pornograhy tube site such as Youporn or Redtube.

Also, the claim is only cited to a single article which is a polemic anti-pornography rant, in a left-wing and heavily anti-pornography newspaper. The author, Martin Amis, is not generally recognised as an authority on the subject of pornography categorisation. The only other place this absurd claim appears is in Gail Dines' hysterical anti-pornography rants. This is not a reliable or impartial source of information.

Since the claim is entirely false and without sufficient support or reasoning, I have deleted the entire section that is based around this claim, because it is irrelevant and misleading in an article that is intended to accurately explain what "Gonzo" pornography is. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7F:BE17:200:94F2:5442:78C2:A8C3 (talk) 11:26, 15 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]